Tony Robbins, LIFE FORCE: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You Love
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[0:40]Tony Robbins is the author of life force how new breakthroughs in precision medicine can transform the quality of your life and those you love
[0:49]Tony is an entrepreneur a number one
[0:51]New York Times best-selling author and philanthropists honored by Accenture as one of the top 50 business intellectuals in the world
[0:58]Robbins is a leader called upon by leaders
[1:01]He is consulted with and or coached some of the world's greatest athletes entertainers
[1:06]Fortune 500 CEOs and four US presidents
[1:09]He's a founder a partner or early investor and a hundred plus privately held businesses with combined sales exceeding
[1:17]$7 billion annually through his philanthropy and partnership with feeding America
[1:21]He has provided more than 800 million meals and is on track to provide one billion meals by
[1:28]2025 FYI and he talks about this in our episode
[1:31]He is donating all the proceeds of this book and his previous two books to
[1:36]Feeding America and also for some other causes. We had the best time. Listen it welcome Tony
[1:42]Thanks so much for coming on mom's don't have time to read books to discuss life force
[1:46]How new breakthroughs in precision medicine can transform the quality of your life and those you love
[1:52]Maybe it's a privilege to meet you. I've heard so much about you from some of my friends with it on your show
[1:56]So thanks found me on it's a pleasure your this book like changed my life
[2:01]I was reading page after page now. It's like oh my gosh, listen to this
[2:04]I kept like reading out loud to my husband. I'm like there's nothing you can do to inject your knees
[2:08]You're not gonna paint and this is that oh my every chapter had something new and revolutionary and exciting and I am like so
[2:17]About the book so I'm so thrilled first of all, thank you for taking the time to read it
[2:21]Everybody does for the interview you so it's a big book as you can tell but I really wanted to write a guide book
[2:27]They could give people the best that exists because their breakthroughs happening in health right now
[2:31]You know now that most people don't even know about that you would think would be 20 years in the future and they're happening today
[2:36]Like you know if somebody's got arthritis
[2:38]There's a single injection. It's an FDA third-level trial. I'm sure you know first is safety second is efficacy
[2:44]Even third is efficacy at scale and then it gets approved. So they hope by the end of this year beginning next year
[2:49]If you got arthritis single injection causes your own, you know
[2:54]Stem cells to regrow your tendons in 11 months and it uses the initial genome
[3:00]So it's clean so it's like 16 year old tendons even if you're 40 or 50 or 60 years old
[3:05]I mean reliving in the greatest time to be alive
[3:07]And most of us don't know it especially in the COVID world
[3:10]It's been so much fear that we've not looked at all the cool things that are breaking through to help people
[3:15]So that's why I really wrote this I and I want to write it because I can't I'm sure you get the same thing
[3:20]You know so many people
[3:21]Not every 10 days two weeks max. Someone's calling me they got cancer or their mom or dad's got Alzheimer's or somebody's out of stroke
[3:28]And it's like I want you know
[3:30]I want to give them answers that are real not the same old hash things that are there
[3:33]And so I wrote this book not only for me and my family
[3:37]But for anyone so they'd have it for themselves
[3:39]But for someone they love like you talking about your husband like here's an answer that you wouldn't even know it happens
[3:43]And you go try these things and many of them are relatively inexpensive and a lot of them are free
[3:48]Like the natural things you can do, but they completely change the quality of your life, you know
[3:53]Radically, so that's why I wrote it. That's why I was into it other than
[3:56]My own injuries and things that are gonna be able to deal with
[3:59]No, it's literally like a
[4:01]It's like watching a movie trailer for all the things that are gonna be better in the future
[4:06]You're like this one's not FDA approved and like just hang wait until 2028
[4:14]But it's it's very exciting because ultimately what you're trying to do is improve the quality of life for everyone on the planet
[4:19]I mean, but that's a pretty big goal for a book
[4:22]But if any of these things actually pan out and many of them obviously have it's really it's mind-blowing to think about what that's gonna do for
[4:31]The community at large like what does it mean if we all start living longer and living better and aging becomes
[4:37]Something that doesn't necessarily have to happen in the same way that we predict
[4:41]Well, I think that's the most exciting thing and it's what's what's really cool is you can have that quality of life today
[4:47]You know, I've tried to make sure that about two-thirds of those things are things you can now and then the third are okay
[4:53]If you do this now in the next 24 months
[4:56]Two years ago by like that and you'll have these tools available
[4:59]But you'll be healthy enough to take advantage of those tools
[5:01]That's a big part of this process. But as you said
[5:04]There are people today. There's you know, I'm old enough to remember having one of the first cell phones
[5:09]This is a good good idea about technology works
[5:11]We all know you know every 18 months, you know, it basically doubles in its power and halves and its costs
[5:16]Well, you and I are code
[5:18]So everything about health now is going in that area
[5:21]So you know a cell phone used to be literally you know a foot long it weighed two pounds
[5:25]You charge it for six hours
[5:27]You get 30 minutes of talk time and it costs $10,000 in current dollars
[5:31]It was for a grand man
[5:33]Right now you got a phone that you know has a hundred times the power of what took us to the moon and back
[5:38]And it's free with a service over here
[5:40]So we're at that beginning of this massive transformation and you have all the wealthiest people in the world now who have technology
[5:47]And they're saying I'm gonna spend that money so that I can slow the aging or reverse the aging process
[5:53]And as you've read it's actually happened
[5:55]There's some tools that are really there so I'm excited to share with you and we'll go wherever you want to go on this interview
[5:59]But I'm excited to meet you. Yes. I'm like, I need to get that cream. I need to do the whole body
[6:05]Literally, I'm like, okay, it looks like there's one of these centers in Florida
[6:09]We've got to get down to Florida and then I kept reading and like 30 pages. I was like, no wait
[6:12]There's London New York
[6:13]We've got to find it
[6:15]Anyway, okay, let's go back to you growing up because I found that very fascinating too
[6:19]How it is that you love to book so much how your friend
[6:24]Your friend's mom Jenny how you basically solved her cancer because of your determination and research skills and how basically
[6:30]You have continued to apply that non-stop and here's the proof
[6:35]So tell me a little bit about growing up and why it was so important to you what your childhood was like and how all this came to be
[6:41]Well, I was I grew up in a pretty tough environment
[6:43]My mom is such a huge influence on who I became
[6:47]But she also got addicted unfortunately to alcohol and prescription drugs and so I had to really become a practical
[6:53]Psychologist learn how to manage that and then I didn't really have any role models
[6:57]We were very poor family in terms of financial terms not a lot of education in my family
[7:01]So I decided I was going to read a book of dad took a speed reading class when I was still in junior high school
[7:06]And I was like I didn't read a book a day, but in seven years
[7:09]I read about 700 plus books psychology physiology philosophy
[7:13]And it was my way to escape. You know, I could I could enter into
[7:17]You know, someone who's in a concentration camp and made it through that
[7:20]That made my life look a lot easier, you know
[7:22]And and then I would share that so by time I was in high school
[7:25]I was missed your solution. You got a problem. I had a solution. Especially if you're a girl
[7:28]I was highly motivated
[7:30]That happened, but I just love people and I wanted those answers
[7:34]And so as I grew up those books became a basis for me and I you know
[7:38]I became a coach and there were no coaches in those days
[7:41]They were sports coaches, but I kind of developed a new industry
[7:44]I learned to be able to turn people around with like a lifetime phobia in less than 20 to 30 minutes
[7:48]When normally being therapy three five seven years
[7:51]And I challenged psychiatrists in those days and I was a young punky kid when I was on TV
[7:56]And I was like I'll do this in 30 minutes. You took them seven years. I'll do it now
[8:00]And so I built my name and then I started work with athletes
[8:03]So at a very young age, I was very successful and then you know
[8:07]There's a part of our brain. We all are probably familiar with it's you know
[8:09]kind of that survival brain and
[8:12]It kicked in all of a sudden where I started thinking
[8:15]Well, I have all this success is such a young age
[8:17]Yeah, I'm working 20 hour days
[8:19]But it must be because I'm gonna die young and somehow that fuck out of my head
[8:24]And then it wasn't gonna be easy like a truck was gonna hit me
[8:26]I was gonna die slowly of cancer and I got obsessed
[8:30]I don't know what's wrong with my brain that I did not run it in those days
[8:33]Someone who thinks about their death like all the time
[8:36]We're like any opportunity
[8:37]I'm like what if it's gonna happen here? What if I get in this place?
[8:39]What if I do this like what if it's right here?
[8:41]But no one's gonna know that I went to this store here
[8:44]So they're not gonna find me for a really long time if there's some collapse
[8:47]Anyway, when I read that about you, I was like oh, I haven't I don't usually think about slow drawn out terrible deaths
[8:53]I usually think about all these horrible
[8:55]I don't want I don't want to influence you
[8:57]I know it down like great now has something new to add to the list
[9:02]Anyway, I really keep going keep going
[9:04]But what what happened was it got so crazy battles
[9:07]I was having nightmares about it and so forth
[9:10]And then sure enough you focus on something long enough it shows up in your life
[9:13]And it showed up later in my life
[9:14]But the first time was not me
[9:16]It was my girlfriend
[9:17]She comes home crying uncontrollably
[9:19]And since I went as it wasn't my mom my mom your mom what my mom has cancer
[9:22]It was like oh my god, she's got make center home
[9:25]She's got nine weeks to live
[9:27]And and something in me kicked in
[9:29]I don't think I would have done it for me
[9:31]And it's like you know your mom I'm a dad in a grandpa
[9:33]So it's like you know, we'll do more for others
[9:35]We love so it's like somehow I've always believed there's an answer
[9:38]You know that you may get it too late
[9:40]But there's an answer to anything you got to find the answers
[9:42]And there's lots of people at stage three and four cancer
[9:45]That made it
[9:46]So I was like I didn't want to read every book on to find every answer
[9:49]And in those days
[9:50]The first book that grabbed me was called one answer to cancer
[9:53]Was by a dentist who had pancreatic cancer, which is the most deadly
[9:57]And he was called he had six weeks to live in you know 20 or
[10:00]15 years later wrote this book. He was still alive and he did it through detoxing the body and pancreatic enzymes and wouldn't be the book
[10:06]I'd say today, but it was the best thing I found. I gave her as a man thinking because anyway, had a good or control her mind.
[10:11]And she was willing to go for it. She was like, they're told I'm going to die anyway. Why not? And after a few weeks, she felt better. And after six, seven weeks, she's still alive.
[10:19]And she had a protrusion on her bracket of one of the tumors and one was in her female organs. And finally, after about nine or 10 weeks, she's past up the time.
[10:28]She's supposed to live. The doctor convinced her, let's do some exploratory surgery. And all he found in her body left was something inside the end of my pinky fingernet, literally.
[10:37]And and she's and she doctors have this a miracle. She said, yes, but let me tell you what I did and he goes, no, no, no, this is spontaneous emission. This is a miracle.
[10:45]She goes, it is a miracle, but let me tell you what I did. And so he wouldn't listen. So she went and started speaking at churches. She was 42 or three at that time. She's in her mid 80s alive today.
[10:55]And so that changed me completely. It made me go, okay, their answers. It made me a health nut. I just started studying everything I could and I needed it because, you know, I'm on stage 12 13 hours with a stadium of 10 or 15,000 people.
[11:09]Four or five, six days in a row. People that wouldn't sit for a three hour movie that someone's been three and a million dollars and I got to hold their attention. So I run up the stairs. I mean, I'm active.
[11:19]And so we've done studies on me with the guys that do Tom Brady and a lot of Olympic athletes have monitored me and found that I burn 11,300 calories in one day on stage.
[11:29]Oh my gosh. I mean, it's insane. It's like two and a half marathons. I jump 1,000 times in a day on stage and I wait two and a half pounds to explain to every time you come down, it's four times your body weight.
[11:40]Wait, you should start offering classes where people just do your emotions like a new aerobics trend can just be like the Tony Robbins, you know, hop or something and then people could lose their calories. It could be an add on to the life course.
[11:55]Well, you know, they've done studies. If you later on, we can talk about this on my audience and what happens to them and they mirror me along the way, not as many calories, but they mirror me along the way. Anyway, all these huge demands on the body.
[12:07]I had to, you know, figure out what to do. And then one day I get this phone call. I went, I'm a helicopter pilot as well. So you have to renew your pilot's license every two years and get another physical.
[12:17]So I go get a physical and I'm going about my business thinking nothing about it and I keep getting this call for my assistant saying the docs is he has thought to us. It will send me the report, you know, and then I get this note and I got home at midnight one night.
[12:29]It's on my door and it says, you must call the doctor. It's an emergency.
[12:34]And then all of a sudden that old brain kicks in rise like, oh, my God, I'm so healthy, but, you know, maybe all the flights I'm taking the radiation do I have can't, you know, the whole brain goes nuts.
[12:43]And one thing I've learned is, you know, the old phrase, you know, a courageous person dies once the coward dies a thousand times like a weight to find out I call in the morning, I'm still concerned, obviously.
[12:53]And he says, you have brain tumors have brain to me goes, well, it's a to a territory tumor at the base of your brain.
[12:59]As how could you know that I came in just for physical test because I did these blood tests because I noticed you have a lot of growth hormone as well.
[13:04]I do notice that I'm six seven. I was five one in high school. I got hands bigger than your head inside 16 shoes. I breakthrough thought.
[13:11]What's that got to do with it and he goes, I, I, I suspected you have giganticism and that you have a tumor and he goes and you do.
[13:20]And he said, I want to put you in surgery immediately and I was like, whoa, whoa, because of Jenny.
[13:25]And I've done lots of research. I'm sure you've seen like the Mayo Clinic tells everybody you need a second opinion no matter how good your doctor is because they've done studies, you know, 286 patients and they find literally 12% of the second opinions are the same as the first 88% of the time it's different.
[13:40]And then by getting a second opinion, it refines at least two thirds of the time. So I was like, okay, I got to get a second opinion. Can you refer somebody and he did not have a bedside matter this man.
[13:50]So I went to this gentleman who works with biochemistry rather than surgery in Boston. It was the one of the best in the world.
[13:58]Completely different guy did all my tests, the nicest human being on earth and set Tony goes to be crazy to surgery.
[14:04]He said, when you can die in two, it'll mess up your inter-consistent and your whole life is energy. Can't do that. I said, I'm in. What's the solution?
[14:12]He said, I want you to go to Switzerland and do this, you know, injection twice a year.
[14:16]That's all you got to do. And I said, but right now my arteries are fine. Everything's fine. You said, I still have the tumor in my brain, but in fact, which means it's shrunk a good deal.
[14:26]So I have a lot of growth hormone. It's still there, but nothing is being harmed.
[14:30]And he said, well, he said, the baker wants the bank, the surgeon wants to cut, and I want to drug you. He said, and he was so nice.
[14:37]And he goes, I said, what if I did nothing? And just measure. He said, well, you could do that, but I want you to be certain.
[14:43]I said, well, there's a price to certain what the drug doesn't work. And so I went to six other doctors after him.
[14:49]And one doc finally said to me, Tony, you do have a lot of growth hormone, but he goes, look at your ability to heal from the insanity of what you do with your body.
[14:57]I've never seen anybody do anything like this. He goes, I know bodybuilders just spend $1,200 a month to get what you get for free.
[15:03]So I've monitored, that was when I was 32, I'm 62. So 30 years later, and there've been no problems in my body.
[15:10]But again, it taught me to think for myself in this area, because doctors are the greatest human beings. I'm not maligning them.
[15:17]I mean, I have lots of friends that are doctors. Then the most dedicated devoted, they don't take care of themselves.
[15:22]So I often goes to taking care of everybody else. But the half life of medical education, according to Harvard, is 18 to 24 months.
[15:30]So half of what they learn is out of date in 18 to 24 months. And then it has to teach them as the pharmaceutical salesman.
[15:36]And as we all know, opioids and things like that, they don't always tell the full truth.
[15:41]Most of them do, of course, but not all of them. So you got new problems.
[15:44]And then I try to explain to people your doctors like a person is so devoted, they're walking by a river and they hear somebody drowning.
[15:50]And they don't think about themselves. They dive into save them, give them out the mouth, but as soon as they save them, they hear two more screens.
[15:56]So they save the first save the seven, they have four more screens. They don't have time to go upstream to see who's throwing them in.
[16:01]This book is showing you what's frozen in and what you can do now to shift that. So, and then the final thing that happened to me, and the reason I finally wrote this book has long answered to you.
[16:10]It's important one, by the way, also, that same thing happened to me with the brain tumor, by the way, I went to six doctors.
[16:17]The first doctor told me I had that surgery right away, the second one, same thing. It went to six doctors.
[16:21]It's kidding me.
[16:22]And the last doctor looked at the slides in a whole new way and he's like, no, no, no, that tumor, that was there all alone.
[16:28]You don't need surgery, and now I'm fine.
[16:29]I'm fine.
[16:30]Oh, give me, I'm so grateful for that for you. You're my sister from another mother here today.
[16:34]I know, right. It's crazy, but I know. And I read your story. I was like, this is nuts.
[16:39]Like, everything you should always get many opinions. I just talked to a friend this morning and she's like, oh, they think I should do this.
[16:45]I'm like, well, let me give you this doctor. Get a second opinion. You have to do it soon.
[16:48]And sometimes a third and a fourth, yeah, third and fourth, go to the rotator cuff.
[16:53]It's not disrespectful, by the way, like Mayo Clinic says everybody should do it.
[16:57]They say even their own doctors you should. So it just makes smart.
[17:00]Anyway, the final step was about four years ago, you know, I'm a crazy person and I'm chasing down a 22 year old professional snow border
[17:08]down the mountainside and I try to do some things I hadn't done before.
[17:12]And I thought I broke my neck. I ripped my rotator cuffs out, which are pretty critical.
[17:18]And I've lived with pain because I grew so fast, but it was nine, nine pain on a zero to 10 scale.
[17:23]And then so I went to all these docs. Everyone, I'm surgery, surgery, surgery. Well, what's the rehab?
[17:27]Well, it's four to six months and you may not be able to lift your shoulder and it could break again.
[17:32]And I was like, and then I got diagnosed with spinal stenosis by one of them.
[17:36]He said, no, it's shoulders, one thing, but now that you hear, let me show you're spine.
[17:39]He goes, one good hit and he said, you won't be able to walk again.
[17:42]No more jumping, no more running, no more like no more life.
[17:46]It was like a gut check or you weren't prepared for it.
[17:48]So I was like, I won't accept this. I not to like exhaust every possibility.
[17:52]So I heard about stem cells.
[17:54]And it's kind of a wild west in the US.
[17:55]There's so many terrible people doing shy to be work here.
[17:58]Unfortunately, the FDA is cleaning it up right now.
[18:01]But the bottom line is I went to my one of my co-authors was a dear friend of mine,
[18:05]or repeated him on this and he's a rocket scientist and a Harvard MD.
[18:09]And I said, what's the most cutting edge in this area?
[18:11]He goes, Tony, you got to talk to Dr. Bob Harari who's now my good friend and partner.
[18:15]And he said, I said, he's the best neurosurgeon.
[18:18]What does he know about stem cells?
[18:19]He goes, no, he was one of the father of stem cells.
[18:21]So it's kind of like saying, you know, I want you to meet.
[18:23]I want to learn about basketball and talk over here to my friend, you know,
[18:27]best basketball player in the world, pick wherever you want.
[18:30]So I sit down with Bob.
[18:31]He said, Tony, you can always go back to the surgery.
[18:34]Why don't you do stem cells?
[18:35]But here's where you get the best stem cells.
[18:37]I said, I'm not into fetal stem cells.
[18:38]He goes, no, I wouldn't recommend that in a million years.
[18:41]Here's what you do, chord stem cells by or placenta.
[18:44]We throw those away most of the time.
[18:46]And they're four days old and they are the life force of the human body.
[18:50]They make everything happen.
[18:51]And so I went and did these three days of just IVs and shots.
[18:55]The first day I felt tired.
[18:56]The second day I woke up and I never expected this.
[18:59]Not only was my shoulder perfect and we had done the MRI, it's fully fine.
[19:03]But my spinal stenosis is gone.
[19:05]I have no pain in my spine after I living with it for 14 years.
[19:08]So I became an evangelist.
[19:10]I want to learn everything about stem cells.
[19:11]But then I realized it wasn't just stem cells.
[19:13]This he's breakthroughs in medicine are in precision regenerative medicine
[19:18]or amazing.
[19:18]Now I got invited by the Pope to speak as the cleanup speaker.
[19:22]The Pope actually throws on every two years.
[19:24]The biggest regenerative conference in the world.
[19:26]That shows you how far it's come.
[19:28]It's not fetal tissue and he sees this as a miracle for humanity.
[19:31]So it brings in all the greatest doctors
[19:33]who asked me if I'd be the final speaker.
[19:34]I was like, I'm not dumb enough to just come speak.
[19:36]I'm a 10-0 for days.
[19:38]And I met like this 11-year-old boy that at four years
[19:41]all this totally out of 5% chance the living is sister game
[19:44]and stem cells and he's perfectly healthy.
[19:46]People that were sent home to die to hospice who went and got
[19:49]you know, different types of treatment that are listed
[19:51]in the book there for cancer that are breakthroughs.
[19:54]And so I said I got to share this with the world.
[19:56]So that's what drove me to say.
[19:58]I got to find the answers.
[19:59]So.
[20:00]Last three years, I've been interviewing 150.
[20:02]Like, I'm not a doctor, but I've access.
[20:05]So I went to 150 of Nobel Prize winners.
[20:07]The best scientists I could find on Earth
[20:09]and the best MDs to say, here's what's real right now.
[20:13]And then here's what's also coming in next 24 to 36 months.
[20:15]So that's what this, that's really the origin of this book.
[20:20]By the way, I'm donating 100% of the book.
[20:22]Like, I've done my last three books.
[20:23]We're feeding 20 million people,
[20:25]because I was fed to when I was a kid.
[20:27]I committed to feed a billion meals.
[20:29]I started out doing 42 million meals over my lifetime.
[20:32]And then about six years ago, seven years ago,
[20:35]I had partnered, so I was doing this financial book,
[20:38]a lot of your friends, I'm interviewing.
[20:40]And I'm using these multi-billionaires
[20:42]who started with nothing on so much respect,
[20:43]but then I'm watching Congress cut,
[20:45]you know, what used to be called food stamps.
[20:47]It's now the SNAP program by $6 billion.
[20:50]So every family needs one week a month
[20:53]to give up their food unless you and I
[20:54]public sector steps in, private sector steps in, I should say.
[20:57]So I said, how many people I've fed 42 million?
[20:59]What if I fed 50 million a year?
[21:01]Then I was like, 100 million?
[21:02]What if I fed a billion people over 10 years?
[21:04]So that was seven years ago,
[21:05]and we're at 825 million meals in my partnership
[21:08]with Feeding America.
[21:09]And we're feeding 20 million meals out of this.
[21:10]And then the balance of the money is going
[21:12]to help with Alzheimer's, cancer, and heart disease research.
[21:16]That's amazing.
[21:17]And I'm so glad you put that in the book too,
[21:19]because that's unbelievable.
[21:21]How much is a meal?
[21:22]Like, can people help with your, like, how much?
[21:24]They can double up with me.
[21:26]If they put an $1, they can get 10 meals for that dollar
[21:30]because I'm matching whatever people do.
[21:32]But I put it a lot more than just the 20 million,
[21:36]and 50 million.
[21:37]It goes beyond the book.
[21:38]But I've taken all three of my last books
[21:40]and put 100% of the money towards that,
[21:41]because it's just so important.
[21:42]And right now, because of COVID,
[21:44]I'm sure you know, there's so many families
[21:46]that are desperately in need, lost their jobs,
[21:48]have been through challenges.
[21:48]So there's a book that becomes a guide book
[21:51]that you can use for yourself or the people you love.
[21:53]But also, you know, it's making a difference
[21:54]for other people simultaneously.
[21:56]So it's a virtuous cycle.
[21:57]Seriously.
[21:58]Why wouldn't you buy this book?
[21:59]I mean, what are the downsides?
[22:01]You know, you can feel good.
[22:03]You can live healthier and better.
[22:05]I mean, some of these, one of the assessments
[22:08]that you talked about through the,
[22:10]it's the life force center, right,
[22:11]where you get like a whole, tell me about that.
[22:13]Can anybody just come and do that?
[22:15]We can't find out if it's the question.
[22:17]Like, when everybody figure out
[22:19]what they need to work on and all of that,
[22:21]why wouldn't you try to do this for yourself?
[22:24]Well, I think we have,
[22:25]we have I think seven centers across the US
[22:27]and some overseas and we're opening more,
[22:28]but also we've made it with an app
[22:30]so that you can go to your own doctor
[22:32]and get some of the tests because-
[22:33]We don't under the app.
[22:35]We don't under the app.
[22:36]We don't under the app.
[22:37]We don't under the app.
[22:37]But you can go to any of the centers
[22:39]and you can do these treatments,
[22:40]but we can also,
[22:40]some of these treatments can be done by other people.
[22:42]I don't want to be limited to our business per se.
[22:44]I just, you know, obviously we have our own place,
[22:47]but I want to tell people about some of those tests
[22:49]because I was one of those guys that's like,
[22:51]I don't want to get in the system.
[22:52]I don't want to know.
[22:54]And I completely changed my view.
[22:55]I'll tell you why.
[22:57]You take cancer, for example.
[22:59]You know, the cancer society
[23:00]to study with over 100,000 people
[23:02]and this is the general number.
[23:04]You get specific numbers on each cancer,
[23:06]but the real thing that kills people
[23:08]is that we catch it at stage three and stage four.
[23:11]And, you know, we have mammograms
[23:13]and we have colonoscopies.
[23:15]We have, we have some tests for certain types of cancers,
[23:18]but the ones that get us are the ones we don't test for.
[23:20]And a gentleman who worked with Google,
[23:22]it's now a friend of mine, put together,
[23:24]he lost his wife to cancer
[23:26]and really, really sad experience to say the least.
[23:30]And he was working on these solutions.
[23:32]And now there's a blood test.
[23:34]It's called grail.
[23:35]And it can test for 50 different cancers
[23:37]and catch them before there's any symptoms whatsoever.
[23:40]So what the cancer society found is,
[23:42]if you're, you know, you find it stage three or four
[23:45]on average, I wouldn't accept anybody's averages,
[23:48]but on average, you got an 80% chance of dying.
[23:51]If you catch it at stage one or two,
[23:53]you have an 80% chance of living.
[23:54]In some cases, a 99% chance of living.
[23:56]So it's like you want to catch it when it's little.
[23:59]And most of the thing of a physical is going
[24:01]and, you know, why even go,
[24:03]he's gonna tap my knee, look at my throat,
[24:04]look at my ear, you know, make me cough.
[24:07]You know, none of those things are really breakthrough.
[24:09]They've been done for 80 years.
[24:10]You wouldn't use a phone from 10 years ago.
[24:12]And so some of the new technology with MRI
[24:15]and things like this, you can catch something with small,
[24:16]minutes and outpatient thing and your wife is perfect.
[24:19]I can't tell you how many people come.
[24:21]You know, people have come and both of you have anything
[24:23]that a gentleman is wife kept pushing him
[24:25]to come to our fountain life center.
[24:27]And he's like, just do the test, do the test, all right.
[24:29]And, you know, he'd done a urine test
[24:31]and he's like, no problem.
[24:32]And sure enough, we found that he had cancer,
[24:35]you know, in that portion of his body.
[24:37]But it was so new.
[24:38]It was so beginning of it.
[24:39]You know, it was an outpatient thing
[24:41]and he was done.
[24:41]No cancer in his body.
[24:43]So it's like, I used to like, don't let me know.
[24:45]Now the most people let me know, I wanna know.
[24:47]There's an amazing test.
[24:49]Heart disease is the biggest killer, as I'm sure you know.
[24:51]And I got a phone call for my partners to found life.
[24:54]And I have a partner named Dr. Cap who's, you know,
[24:58]been in the business about 39 years
[25:00]and he's built 12 different hospitals.
[25:01]And he's funny, society's gonna sell all his hospitals.
[25:04]He wants to do preventative care.
[25:05]He wants to do the things that are, you know, precision medicine.
[25:09]So that's why we partnered up.
[25:10]He called me up and he said, Tony,
[25:11]there's this new test.
[25:12]He said, it is the biggest breakthrough
[25:15]and at least the decade in cardiology.
[25:17]He said, you know, you ever had a CT scan?
[25:19]I said, yeah, he goes,
[25:20]there's so hard to read, even a doctor heart disease.
[25:22]They're looking to see calcium inside your body
[25:25]and seeing, you know, what the ratio is
[25:27]and how likely you are to have a heart attack.
[25:30]And he said, but there's this new test called CCTA.
[25:33]He uses AI.
[25:34]And it literally digitally opens up all your arteries
[25:37]and looks through and finds, yes, you might have calcium in there.
[25:41]But if it's hardened, it's healthy.
[25:43]You have a problem.
[25:44]If it's soft plaque, that's the can break off
[25:46]and they call it the Widowmaker, give you a stroke
[25:48]or a heart attack.
[25:49]And he goes, Tony, they can predict the heart attack
[25:51]five years in advance, but show you what to do to prevent it.
[25:55]And my father-in-law was with me.
[25:57]He's just about to turn 80 at the time.
[25:59]And I noticed he's a, you know, a vigorous guy,
[26:01]young his own business, self-made man,
[26:03]was in the lumber business, somebody's strong guy.
[26:05]But you know, when you're turning 80,
[26:06]everybody starts saying, get your, you know,
[26:08]errors, you know, organize, you know, your affairs and all this.
[26:11]And I could just see the drop in his energy.
[26:14]And my, my God, is he's got more in there, right?
[26:16]But the mind plays such a role in the environment
[26:18]where I'm with people such a role.
[26:20]So I said, dad, I'm going to go, you know,
[26:22]right here in Florida's around the corner.
[26:24]I said, why don't you come with me?
[26:25]I told him about the study of tests.
[26:26]And I said, I'm going to go do it at our stage of life.
[26:30]Of course, we're going to have some soft plaques,
[26:31]but they'll be all tell us what to do.
[26:33]Turn around.
[26:34]I think you better to know.
[26:35]It's okay.
[26:36]So I take him with me.
[26:37]My father-in-law is clean as a whistle.
[26:39]He has nothing in there.
[26:40]I'm in a guy who's so solid.
[26:42]He's like celebrating and stuff.
[26:44]I was 80% better than five years ago.
[26:48]And I'm in great shape also,
[26:49]but he's literally clean as a whistle.
[26:51]And then, you know, he had a problem with his hip.
[26:53]And, you know, some of the technology available today
[26:56]is mind boggling.
[26:57]I used to have this thing on my ankle where I tore it
[26:59]when I was on stage 20 years ago.
[27:01]If someone gave me a massage, don't touch the ankle
[27:03]because it would shoot my nerves up my leg
[27:05]and just like someone's electrocuting it.
[27:07]And they go in now and they use ultrasound
[27:09]and they see exactly where the tissue is mangled.
[27:11]I love that thing.
[27:12]They open it up.
[27:13]They put this fluid in, the same fluid that you have
[27:15]when you're having your baby.
[27:16]And it heals it and opens it in about 10 minutes.
[27:19]And I've never had pain in it since.
[27:21]I mean, some of the greatest athletes in the world
[27:23]we work with in this area.
[27:23]There was still in the book.
[27:25]But, so my dad had a hip problem.
[27:26]So he's walking kind of weird, right?
[27:28]So I took, you know, 15 minutes to get his hip perfect, right?
[27:32]So now we get on the plane to fly home.
[27:34]We're in Florida on Western Florida.
[27:35]We live on these ghosts.
[27:36]And my dad's just down.
[27:38]I'll never forget looking at space.
[27:39]He's like, he looks like 20 years younger.
[27:41]He's got this big granny goes, you know, Tony,
[27:43]you know, these people talk about living 110 and 120.
[27:46]I don't know if I'd buy that BS,
[27:47]but he goes, you know, my heart's perfect.
[27:50]You know, my hips perfect.
[27:52]I'm walking for, I could live another 20 years.
[27:54]You've only known my daughter.
[27:56]You've only been married here in 22 years.
[27:57]That's like another lifetime.
[27:59]And it's like total transformation in his psychology
[28:03]because it takes away the fear.
[28:04]Same thing with Alzheimer's.
[28:05]One of the most important tests you can do is for metals.
[28:09]You know, if you're, you know,
[28:10]you got a lot of mamas out there and they're taking care
[28:13]of everything.
[28:15]And no matter what you do, the lifestyles we have today,
[28:17]there's so many metals in the environment.
[28:19]And I actually had massive mercury.
[28:22]It burned a hole in my software.
[28:23]It just lost the third of my blood supply.
[28:25]Could have died.
[28:25]Oh my gosh.
[28:26]It was, you know, it's from salad and fish.
[28:28]I was so disciplined, salad and fish,
[28:31]but I had swordfish and tuna.
[28:32]And they are old fish, 75 years.
[28:34]They eat the younger fish with all their mercury.
[28:37]I also don't methylate.
[28:38]Well, I didn't know these things.
[28:39]I didn't have a test for it.
[28:41]So literally it almost killed me.
[28:43]And but I was losing my memories at 53.
[28:46]And I was like, I'm like, well, how is this possible?
[28:49]It interrupts your, your mitochondria.
[28:51]So it interrupts your energy.
[28:52]A little hundred dollar test.
[28:54]And you can know if you have it
[28:55]and you know what to do while it's still small and easy.
[28:57]Another one that most women are familiar with is hormones.
[29:00]But most women think about that in terms of menopause.
[29:03]Women replace the therapy.
[29:05]But one of the greatest breakthroughs that's happening
[29:06]in science is hormone optimization therapy,
[29:09]which means before there's a problem,
[29:11]what a minor intervention,
[29:13]you completely change your life.
[29:15]And so energy cognition, everything in men.
[29:18]Men, we and a man come in just recently at that life.
[29:21]And, you know, you thought all this,
[29:23]you thought he had long term COVID, foggy break,
[29:25]all these things.
[29:26]And we go in and he says, oh, I've already done my,
[29:29]you know, all my testing, my doctor's on my testing.
[29:31]He said, well, what are your numbers?
[29:32]We did it again to see where it is.
[29:34]And it's testosterone, it was like 240.
[29:37]And, you know, for most men to feel healthy and strong
[29:39]and easy in the 7800-900 depends on the person, right?
[29:42]Up to 1,000.
[29:43]But someone will say, you're fine
[29:45]because they don't tell you you're in trouble
[29:46]till you're really in trouble like 150.
[29:49]He was not far from it.
[29:51]You change that, he lost 24 pounds, got a zest for living.
[29:54]It's energy's back.
[29:55]I mean, it's like, there are simple things you can do
[29:58]which is some basic tasks.
[30:00]And then you can also do your own age.
[30:03]You know, David Sinclair is a Harvard professor.
[30:05]He's one of the greatest longevity experts in the world.
[30:08]He's 53 years old.
[30:10]He's 33 in his biochemistry.
[30:13]And he's done it by using a few simple tools that we teach in the book.
[30:16]I just applied it.
[30:17]I've only been doing it for a year.
[30:18]I'm 62 in a couple of weeks.
[30:20]I'm 51 in my biochemistry.
[30:23]So I just took this test too.
[30:25]I went to like a longevity center.
[30:28]I'm 45 years old.
[30:30]And I was like 45 on the test.
[30:32]So that's not a bad thing.
[30:34]But there are things you can do now.
[30:36]There are things you can do now to bring that down to be.
[30:39]I'm trying.
[30:40]I'm trying.
[30:41]Yes.
[30:42]I won't.
[30:43]I'm trying.
[30:44]It's not just exercising diet.
[30:45]There's some things that can start to reverse the aging process.
[30:48]I'll give you one really quick.
[30:50]This will sound complex.
[30:51]So if people listening, you don't have to remember these words.
[30:54]It's not a test.
[30:55]It's in the book.
[30:56]But there are three words that we're useful to know over time.
[30:59]If you want maximum energy and strength.
[31:01]And so one of those is understanding that there are seven master hormones
[31:06]and they're called certuins.
[31:08]It's in the books you don't have to remember.
[31:10]But these are two ones.
[31:11]Do two of the most important things in your life.
[31:13]Number one, they affect your mitochondria,
[31:15]which is where all your energy comes from.
[31:17]Your ATP.
[31:18]It's the source of energy in every cell in your body.
[31:20]So they blast those verses.
[31:22]They help convert food so that actually occurs
[31:24]and you feel the energy in your body.
[31:26]By the way, one thing COVID does is it gets in as the virus
[31:29]and it eats up those mitochondria, the energy in your body.
[31:32]And so that's why people have this long term fatigue type
[31:35]of experience that they don't do in intervention.
[31:37]It also reduces your inflammation,
[31:39]which is where most disease starts.
[31:41]Also these master genes turn on and turn off different genes.
[31:45]Like most people know by now your genes are not your destiny.
[31:48]Your genes are a code,
[31:51]but which ones get turned on or turned off is affected
[31:54]by what's called the epigenome.
[31:56]Think of like your genome as the piano,
[31:58]as the piano, the piano players, your epigenome.
[32:00]And that's affected by your diet, by your weight,
[32:03]by radiation, by all these things.
[32:05]Well, the epigenome is triggered by certuents.
[32:08]These genes.
[32:09]So it turns all this on and off, gives you energy,
[32:12]and then it has a second job,
[32:14]which is it cleans up all of your DNA.
[32:16]Because as you age,
[32:18]you're exposed to more radiation, more chemicals,
[32:20]more things.
[32:21]There's an accumulation of breakdown of your DNA.
[32:23]So it literally cleans up the DNA.
[32:25]But here's the problem.
[32:26]When you turn 50, you're not there yet.
[32:28]You lose about 50% of the ingredient
[32:31]that makes those certuents run.
[32:33]There's a fuel for it.
[32:34]So thanks.
[32:35]Sarah Toons and NAD plus, and a man.
[32:37]Three words.
[32:38]Sarah Toons, you don't have to remember it.
[32:39]And James.
[32:40]Finn the book.
[32:41]Right behind it is the fuel.
[32:43]It's called NAD plus.
[32:44]But in order for that to give you the fuel,
[32:46]it has a precursor called NMN.
[32:48]So when they give NMN to mice,
[32:51]they live 30% longer lives.
[32:54]And they give NMN to an old mouse.
[32:56]So an old mouse is, you know, 20, 24 month old mouse
[32:59]is like a 70 year old person, 70.
[33:02]They can run one kilometer on a little track.
[33:05]A young mouse is strong and fit and run a full kilometer,
[33:09]400% more in terms of power.
[33:12]They give NMN to these old mice.
[33:15]And within 14 days, they're running two to three kilometers,
[33:19]200 to three times more than a younger one.
[33:21]So you go, well, my whole thing is, well, that's nice.
[33:23]But will that transfer to humans?
[33:24]It doesn't always.
[33:25]Well, two weeks ago, it was in the daily mail.
[33:28]And about a month and a half ago, it was in Boston.
[33:30]It was leaked that there's a new form of NMN that's been developed
[33:34]by this company called Microbiotech.
[33:36]And they've been giving it to the soldiers there,
[33:39]and special forces soldiers.
[33:40]These are strongest piece of already.
[33:42]And their endurance levels have exploded
[33:44]their ability to develop muscle, which, as you age,
[33:47]is one of the problems that makes people break down
[33:49]in South Virginia.
[33:50]Their cognitive capacity went through.
[33:52]I met a 72 year old guy, it's a chess player
[33:55]that hasn't played for a decade.
[33:56]He's playing competitive chess again from this.
[33:58]So this is not a nutraceutical.
[34:01]This is going through the FDA.
[34:02]And within 18 to 24 months,
[34:04]they think they'll have approval and be available for anybody.
[34:07]These types of breakthroughs, they're like miraculous.
[34:11]And they're happening right now.
[34:13]The other mind-blowing thing was 3D printing organs.
[34:16]Yes.
[34:17]That was wildly wild.
[34:19]I could not believe that.
[34:20]I couldn't believe it.
[34:21]It's been done, Dr. Tony Natala,
[34:23]Anthony Natala at Wake Forest University
[34:26]has been doing this for 12 years.
[34:28]He has been taking people, well, first of all,
[34:30]soldiers like losing ear.
[34:31]There's a picture in the book.
[34:32]He literally uses your own stem cells
[34:34]and regrows a new ear for you.
[34:36]He's done it with bladders for 12 years
[34:38]or people that, because normally your body
[34:40]would reject something, right?
[34:41]And how does he do it?
[34:43]Spray on stem cells.
[34:44]He literally sprays them on this shape
[34:47]and builds a new organ.
[34:48]So if you have an older car,
[34:50]you can make it new by changing the tires,
[34:52]change the engine, change the paint.
[34:54]Well, that's what we're doing with our bodies.
[34:56]And when I wrote the chapter, which is about a year ago,
[34:59]I've met with several people who do this.
[35:02]One of them was the Martine Roth Black.
[35:05]She is just a total genius.
[35:07]She created a serious radio.
[35:10]And then she was told her daughter had this uncurable lung disease
[35:15]and she couldn't breathe with worse and worse.
[35:17]And there's no drugs.
[35:18]There's no approach.
[35:19]There's no nothing.
[35:20]And getting on a list for new lungs is,
[35:22]it's a long shot these days.
[35:24]And so she's a problem.
[35:26]So she eats problems for breakfast.
[35:27]You want the smartest human beings I know.
[35:29]By the way, she was a man before.
[35:30]She's a woman today.
[35:32]Her whole family supported it.
[35:34]Just a total genius human being.
[35:36]So she says, I'm saving my daughter.
[35:38]She's sold her interest most of interest in serious took the money
[35:41]and went to find solutions.
[35:43]And nobody is getting them.
[35:44]And finally, she found a drug that didn't work for what they wanted for,
[35:49]but it would work for what she was doing,
[35:51]but she couldn't get anybody to sell it to her.
[35:52]She wasn't a doctor.
[35:53]So she went and hired all these other doctors.
[35:55]She was relentless.
[35:56]Got the drug today.
[35:58]Save her daughter's life and save thousands of other people's lives
[36:01]who in this situation.
[36:02]But now she's building organs.
[36:05]She's got a way to take lungs that don't work
[36:07]and repair them so they can be utilized for people in bad ways,
[36:10]but doing the same thing.
[36:12]So there's four organizations doing this right now.
[36:14]And in the short term, Dr. Church from Harvard
[36:17]is the top geneticist on earth.
[36:20]He said, pig organs are the first step
[36:24]while we're getting this up to speed,
[36:25]because they're so like human beings, but they'd be rejected.
[36:28]So they scoured the DNA that would make them rejected.
[36:31]And he told me by the time the book comes out,
[36:34]he said in early 2022, while the first pig transplant for a heart,
[36:38]I promise you, and it happened two weeks ago,
[36:40]you probably saw in the news.
[36:41]Good, I did.
[36:42]And I mean, it is amazing.
[36:44]The future, I'm talking in three years, they believe
[36:47]they'll be able to print from yourself, your own stem cells
[36:51]and build these replacement organs.
[36:53]So you need a new organ.
[36:54]We just swap it out and you're brand new again.
[36:57]It sounds insane.
[36:58]It sounds like 30 years from now.
[37:00]It's happening right now.
[37:01]Oh my gosh.
[37:03]Wow. So much information.
[37:05]So much information in the book.
[37:07]I am totally energized.
[37:09]Your energy, of course, is completely infectious.
[37:11]So, you know, you can put your infectious disease specialized.
[37:14]Specialists on that too.
[37:16]It's been a pleasure talking to you.
[37:18]Congratulations on having an almost 700 page book.
[37:20]But I love how you bolden things.
[37:22]Thank you.
[37:23]That was really helpful.
[37:24]And it's just been literally life changing
[37:27]to read this book and chat with you today.
[37:29]So I can't wait for all the new announcements.
[37:31]And I'm totally coming to the center.
[37:33]And I don't know.
[37:34]Let me know when you're coming.
[37:35]Let me know when you're coming.
[37:37]Reach out to me if you would.
[37:38]And I'll make sure my team notes are coming.
[37:40]And if you ever want to come to a live seminar now,
[37:42]as a mom, you would love to.
[37:43]I would love to.
[37:44]I love to have you as my guest.
[37:45]So we'll send you the schedule.
[37:47]You let us know if you want to attend.
[37:48]I would love it.
[37:49]Especially if I can jump up and down a burn 11,000 calories.
[37:52]All right.
[37:54]Have a great day, Tony.
[37:55]Thank you, Zippy.
[37:56]Take care of yourself.
[37:57]Bye bye.
[37:58]Blessings.
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[38:07]Don't have time to read books.
[38:08]Also sign up for my newsletter at zippyowens.com
[38:11]and sign up for my virtual book club and meet lots of authors on Zoom
[38:14]every other week.
[38:15]Thanks so much to Steve and Ryan at Texturesound for the Sound Editing.
[38:19]And thank you to Morning Moon Productions for providing this fantastic intro
[38:22]and outro music.