Laura Lynne Jackson, SIGNS: The Secret Language of the Universe
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[1:07]Laura Lynn Jackson is the author of Science, The Secret Language of the Universe.
[1:12]Laura Lynn is a teacher, speaker, and psychic medium.
[1:16]She currently serves as a Windbridge certified research medium with the Windbridge Research Center and is also a certified medium with a forever family foundation.
[1:24]She is the author of the light between us and New York Times bestseller.
[1:27]She lives on the island with her husband and their three children.
[1:31]Welcome, Laura Lynn.
[1:32]Thank you so much for coming on Moms Don't Have Time to read books to discuss signs the secret language of the universe.
[1:39]Hello, thank you so much for having me here.
[1:41]I am delighted you're here.
[1:43]I was so excited for this podcast.
[1:45]I'm so into all of this stuff.
[1:48]Maybe you should start out by explaining to listeners a little bit about what this book is about if you don't mind.
[1:55]Sure, of course.
[1:57]So science, The Secret Language of the Universe is really about how we all have the ability to tap into this kind of magical language.
[2:06]That's all around us at all times.
[2:08]So many times people think, you know, oh, well, I would need to go to a psychic medium to access the other side or get information from the other side or get guidance or love or support or feel my loved ones who have crossed around.
[2:21]And that simply is not true at all.
[2:23]We all have that innate ability.
[2:25]So I really wanted people to understand that.
[2:28]And the book is really a journey that takes the reader through other people's experiences of loss and grief and the magical connections that start to happen that become undeniable.
[2:40]You know, I think so many of us are stopping this frontal lobe like monkey mind, logical, you know, analytical thought pattern that we forget that there's something so much deeper within us that we can access it all times, which is this beautiful spiritual communication that's part of us.
[2:57]I really read your book with so much relief.
[3:00]I'm like, Oh, few because because I've chosen to sort of convince myself of everything that you your theories right like I've decided that even though I have no proof, I'm just going to go with it because it makes me feel better myself.
[3:12]So if I'm wrong, I won't really know I'm wrong right.
[3:16]That's a good way of thinking, right. If you're wrong, you won't know you're wrong. But I think I actually think proof is really important.
[3:24]You know, which is what signs us all about it's about having your own proof that this is real.
[3:29]So this made it, this gave me this like piece of mind because you gave, I was like, I wonder if she's added up how many examples she gave to prove her point.
[3:38]There must be like what 300 stories, little tidbits or examples, maybe more of people who have seen had signs or had inkling this of another, you know, evidence right that you say you can just sort of will into existence.
[3:54]And I have to tell you, and I'm sure you get this all the time. But so I read your book and then the next morning I was on the beach with my kids.
[4:00]And I was telling them about my book because I talk about a lot of the books that I read.
[4:03]And I was explaining because we recently lost my husband's mother and grandmother to COVID and it was like a horrific or prolonged illness and awful and they were.
[4:14]Yeah, those were six weeks apart.
[4:17]Oh my God.
[4:18]Yeah, six weeks.
[4:19]So my mother-in-law went to the hospital basically the day after her mom died and then it took six weeks.
[4:24]Anyway, I don't want to go into this whole story.
[4:26]But we miss her very much.
[4:27]Right. And we talk about her a lot.
[4:29]And you know, so this weekend next to my son's bed, I opened the dress, the drawer, which I have must have opened 8,000 times.
[4:36]And suddenly there's this note that I never saw before from my mother-in-law to my son saying like, congratulations, great job. So proud of you.
[4:44]And I was like, that's insane. So then my dog who used to be her dog will not leave the side table.
[4:52]And even though the dog always sleeps with me.
[4:55]And I slept next to the table.
[4:58]And then, sorry, we have to talk about your, and then the next morning we go, this is right before the beach.
[5:05]We go to Kmart.
[5:07]And it was like she saw someone she knew.
[5:11]So she starts dog sprinting into Kmart, which she never does.
[5:15]And at first I was like, wow, when she was Susan Stark, she must have gone to Kmart all the time.
[5:19]They might, this must have been their thing.
[5:21]You know, like she must recognize the logo.
[5:24]But then I was like, no, I feel like she saw Susan there.
[5:27]So then I go to the beach with my kids. This will wrap up in a second.
[5:30]And I was explaining to them all about your signs.
[5:32]And I was explaining like the oranges and I was explaining, you know, the ninja turtles and, you know, all these examples that you give in the book.
[5:39]And how you set in the book that what you really need to do is you can say it in your head or you can say it out loud what your sign is going to be with the person.
[5:46]So I said, why don't we pick a sign for treats.
[5:49]They call her treats.
[5:51]So when we were tell you what the sign should be, I said, actually, I think maybe her sign is rainbows because I had never seen a double rainbow in my life.
[5:59]And since she's passed away, we've had multiple double rainbows.
[6:03]Oh, wow.
[6:04]In the same place.
[6:05]And in my sister-in-law, her daughter sees them too.
[6:07]So we decided, okay, the sign is going to be rainbows.
[6:10]So this is at like 11.
[6:12]I go to like visit a friend of mine who's sick.
[6:14]And I don't see my daughter get dressed.
[6:16]And she face times me as I'm on my way home.
[6:18]I look at her and she's wearing a t-shirt with this giant rainbow on it.
[6:22]Oh, my God.
[6:23]And I was like, she's wearing a rainbow.
[6:25]Look at your shirt.
[6:26]And she was like, I didn't even realize.
[6:29]Oh, wow.
[6:30]Crazy.
[6:31]It's not crazy at all.
[6:33]And I love that you're, you're sharing this story of connection because that's what we need to do with one another.
[6:39]We need to honor our connections.
[6:41]We just share our stories.
[6:43]I think so often we have these unbelievably deniable moments of connection with people we love on the other side.
[6:50]And we feel love and we feel supported and we know it's real.
[6:54]We know in every ounce of our being.
[6:56]And then we don't talk about it.
[6:58]Cause we're afraid of being laughed at or we're afraid of sounding like,
[7:01]we were kooky or whatever it might be.
[7:03]But this is a real language that occurs.
[7:06]I think you're describing too.
[7:07]I find it really interesting because one thing that I have learned from all the readings I've done and from listening to people on the other side is that animals here can see spirit.
[7:17]You know, they're not stuck in that same frontal lobe that we are.
[7:21]Yeah.
[7:22]And so they communicate in so many different ways.
[7:25]They're not stuck in this like analytical language either.
[7:27]And that is such a common thing to occur when somebody crosses that you will notice your pets.
[7:34]We'll start looking and getting agitated or dancing on its circles. Like don't you see this person who will stay in a certain place or, you know, I love that.
[7:42]It's all got so excited and ran into camera because it's like, you know, she was there with you.
[7:46]I mean, it might sound silly, but I love ones on the other side.
[7:49]They're present for everything for the small moments like shopping.
[7:52]It came out to the great moments like a great celebration to the sad moments where you're just feeling thereafter alone.
[7:59]They're there for everything.
[8:00]And having not knowing within yourself is everything.
[8:04]That's why, you know, someone could listen to me or they could, you know, understand the examples I'm giving,
[8:10]but even the most powerful thing for anyone to have is their own experience and to test it.
[8:16]And that's why I say, don't believe me. Go try this. Try this with your loved ones.
[8:20]You know, I always talk about we all have a team of light on the other side, which is God energy.
[8:24]this force of love that connects us all, you know, we're all intertwined and interconnected and part of each other's journeys and ways we can't possibly fathom.
[8:32]And then we all have our own what I refer to as spirit guides.
[8:35]And now that sounds a little woo-woo.
[8:37]I've come to understand it's real, you know, throughout time and history, different religions,
[8:42]refer to the angelic ones like Guardian Angels and so forth.
[8:45]I could just call them spirit guides and they all have our own personalized ones that have been with us from the get-go spirit to contract with us
[8:51]and trying to kind of lead us on our highest path always.
[8:55]And sometimes people have a sense of that and they feel a presence.
[8:59]And sometimes people are not really paying attention, but they still help us.
[9:02]And then I think one of the most powerful parts of our team of light is our loved ones who have crossed, including pets, by the way.
[9:08]And the most can do this too.
[9:10]And they're with us at all times and they want us to live and engaged vibrant life.
[9:15]They want us to celebrate.
[9:16]They want us to know that there's still very much a lie of consciousness.
[9:20]The only thing that's gone is their physical body.
[9:22]But that love, that sort of connection is still there.
[9:25]And what's more, I think you can get even stronger ones they cross.
[9:29]You know, relationships continue.
[9:31]And it's just, it's really magical when you start to see evidence of that in your everyday life.
[9:37]It's really a beautiful knowing you have.
[9:40]It is.
[9:41]It takes away some of the anxiety of the living.
[9:44]Right.
[9:45]You know that this is coming.
[9:46]I even ended up telling my kids.
[9:47]I was like, let me just pick my sign with you now.
[9:50]So that you know, I gave them my sign.
[9:53]Like we're all set.
[9:54]I'm like, I'm like, but now you guys know, because they're very afraid that like something will happen.
[10:00]and you go, you know, and I'm like, no,
[10:02]if something happens to me, it's okay
[10:04]because you know now, for sure,
[10:05]I'll be showing up through signs.
[10:07]So anyway, your book has made a huge impact
[10:09]on our little family just telling you.
[10:11]So I'm so like move that you share that
[10:14]with your children too.
[10:15]I think that's so important,
[10:16]especially because kids are so much more in touch
[10:19]with their intuitive abilities
[10:21]than we are as an adult, as adult.
[10:23]And I think most kids shut down
[10:25]once they start formal schooling
[10:27]and then there's kind of like the final moment
[10:29]when, you know, like 12 to 11 to 13 right there
[10:33]when all the hormones start
[10:33]where they can stay open to those abilities
[10:35]or shut them down, you know, really slam the door on them.
[10:38]And it's so beautiful when parents have discussions
[10:41]with kids and they talk about those things
[10:43]and they talk about signs
[10:44]because you're giving them tools
[10:45]to help navigate their life going forward.
[10:47]Now these intuitive abilities
[10:48]and these connections we have,
[10:50]they're really helpful in a very practical way.
[10:53]Not only comforting us, but helping guide us.
[10:55]So I love that you've done that.
[10:57]That's just amazing.
[10:58]Yeah.
[10:59]Yeah, as we were leaving the beach that day,
[11:01]and I don't usually tell all these stories
[11:02]about myself during an end of rezone, sorry,
[11:04]but there's one feather was like dancing through the air
[11:07]as we were leaving.
[11:08]I know it was like going off at that point.
[11:10]I know, I was like, oh my gosh, I know.
[11:13]So the feather was like going through the air
[11:15]and we like left the beach and whatever.
[11:16]And yesterday when my daughter came home from school,
[11:19]she said, you know, every Monday in school,
[11:21]our teacher asks us to write a whole story
[11:23]about what happened to us this weekend
[11:25]and draw a picture or whatever.
[11:26]She's like, so I wrote about our time on the beach
[11:28]and the feather floating through the air.
[11:30]That is so beautiful.
[11:33]Not only is that, but that also honors,
[11:34]you know, your mother and mommy.
[11:36]There's like, that's so magical for them too,
[11:38]because one of the most important things for them
[11:40]to know is that we received the message,
[11:41]we know it was real and we're honoring it.
[11:43]So when you write, when you go to wrote about that,
[11:45]I mean, there could be no greater gift than to do that.
[11:47]That is so beautiful.
[11:49]I absolutely love it.
[11:50]My husband is in LA now, it's like filming this movie.
[11:53]So I called him and I was like, look, you know,
[11:54]I know your mom visits you a lot,
[11:56]but just so you know, she hung out with us this weekend.
[12:00]Really neat thing that they tell me
[12:02]is that one of the things that they love most
[12:04]about not being in a physical body
[12:07]is that they can be in more than one place at the same time.
[12:09]Oh, yeah.
[12:10]Okay.
[12:11]It does here.
[12:12]So she could actually be with him and with you
[12:14]and sending signs to both of you in real time
[12:17]at the same time.
[12:18]And there have been occurrences like that
[12:20]that people have shared with me
[12:21]where they've asked for a sign from a loved one
[12:23]and one person will be like, you know, in LA,
[12:26]let's say, and the other person will be in like London
[12:29]and at the same exact time,
[12:30]they'll both get the sign
[12:32]and then they'll text each other in real time.
[12:33]It's really, it's really amazing.
[12:36]I think people on the other side,
[12:37]sometimes they really like to show off like,
[12:39]look what I can do.
[12:40]I'm gonna make sure you know this.
[12:42]You know, I love too because we can ask them for signs
[12:44]but they can establish signs as well.
[12:46]Like how you picked up on the fact
[12:48]that she had already kind of established rainbows
[12:51]and then also feathers, right?
[12:52]And then you can ask for anything else.
[12:54]It's really wonderful that you're doing that.
[12:56]Well, I mean, it was inspired by you.
[12:58]So what is this like for you?
[13:01]And this is probably two general question
[13:03]but the fact that you're so in touch
[13:06]with this other dimension essentially
[13:09]and you've even gotten through that verified
[13:12]if you will with your training and like, you know,
[13:14]gold stamp approval and all of that.
[13:16]And yet you're just navigating
[13:18]the everyday world like the rest of us, right?
[13:20]You have to like blow dry your hair
[13:21]whatever you did to make your hair like so good this morning.
[13:24]So like how do you take all that knowledge
[13:27]and that sort of like deeper existential stuff
[13:30]and then, you know, go to the grocery
[13:33]or do whatever else?
[13:34]It's such a great question.
[13:36]You know, what I can say is that it's changed
[13:38]the way I live and it's layered my life with meaning.
[13:41]It's almost as if I'm living two lives at the same time.
[13:45]You know, the moral version of me who's in a human body
[13:47]and having my own soul experiences
[13:49]and meeting my own challenges
[13:50]and meeting to make free world decisions
[13:53]and navigate my life a certain way.
[13:55]And then the knowing that there's something so much greater
[13:58]than me in terms of my life, my purpose, my connections,
[14:03]things that will happen in day to day
[14:05]and even the challenges I face.
[14:07]And so it's been enormously helpful.
[14:09]I would say, especially during times
[14:11]when I am going through a period of struggle
[14:14]or, you know, I'm watching a family member
[14:16]try to navigate something or I'm confused about a decision.
[14:20]It's really helpful for me to remember like,
[14:22]well, this and here and now
[14:24]and what I can see touch and feel that's not all there is.
[14:26]There's a form of guidance that will help me understand
[14:30]the journey I'm on right now or might refrain it for me
[14:33]or might give me guidance.
[14:35]And so I will ask for signs.
[14:37]I will also, you know, every time I do a session,
[14:40]I'm in a different place.
[14:42]And, you know, I think it's where most people go
[14:44]when they meditate.
[14:45]And so I'm getting information and downloads.
[14:48]And I think that I also get downloads just randomly.
[14:53]Like honestly, it can happen when I'm shutting a door
[14:55]or when I'm walking, you know, it'll just boom.
[14:57]It's like this download of knowing that's some guidance
[15:00]from my own life path and the journey that I'm on.
[15:03]So I always have the sense of understanding
[15:05]that my life is greater than what I can see.
[15:07]My role here is much greater than I can see.
[15:11]And this is not unique to me.
[15:13]This is true for every single person on the planet.
[15:17]Your life is greater than you can imagine.
[15:19]You are a more loved and supportive than you can imagine.
[15:23]Your life means so much.
[15:24]And I think what I've learned too
[15:26]is that our free will decisions
[15:28]are the most important thing.
[15:29]We have the spiritual, our spiritual self
[15:33]hosted in this physical body,
[15:34]which is never fully comfortable, right?
[15:36]You have aches and pains or things don't want me.
[15:38]And then you have the third part of that triangle,
[15:41]which is your free will.
[15:42]So the decisions you make about steering
[15:45]you're so in your body, right?
[15:47]And I think that that is where we can create profound
[15:51]and amazing change and help others.
[15:54]I think we are always meant to use a currency of love
[15:57]forgiveness and kindness.
[15:59]And if we can stick to that and let that override
[16:02]whatever else kind of happens to us
[16:05]or whatever way we might embrace the situation,
[16:07]other than that, we're always gonna find our highest path.
[16:10]And sometimes that is really hard to do.
[16:12]You know, we're having human experiences
[16:15]and all sorts of emotions and conflict come into play.
[16:19]But I think trusting that we're part of something much greater
[16:23]than we can see and that we're connected to this force
[16:27]of love and kindness really helps us navigate things.
[16:32]You know, I've asked the other side,
[16:33]so to keep me like I have two modes, right?
[16:36]I have a normal talking mode like I'm doing with you right now.
[16:39]And then I have reading mode.
[16:40]And I try to be very concrete about that
[16:42]and say like when I'm going out to Costco,
[16:44]do not let somebody's uncle from aisle three
[16:48]come through to me as I'm trying to pick out,
[16:49]you know, groceries that I need.
[16:51]And for the most part, they're very respectful of that.
[16:53]So I get to live like normal mode a lot.
[16:56]But it is something I could turn on or access.
[16:58]I try not to use it in like a rude way at all.
[17:01]You know, I try to really respect it and honor it myself.
[17:04]Like I would never try to read someone's energy
[17:07]and connect with their loved ones on the other side
[17:09]unless they gave me permission.
[17:10]Now every now and then something will happen where I feel
[17:13]like there's a VIP line on the other side of my guide
[17:15]to be like, okay, come on in and somebody's, you know,
[17:18]love one will pop through when I'll, you know,
[17:19]it's usually, I would never go up somebody to share
[17:22]but it's usually in a certain context where that happens.
[17:25]But for the most part, I get to be normal the time too.
[17:29]Yeah, if anybody, if anyone's coming through,
[17:32]you can just let them in, you know,
[17:33]if anyone's, you know, knocking on the door or trying to
[17:36]be funny, you said that I had a feeling
[17:37]this is going to happen because I never read
[17:39]when I do podcasts because I want to be very thoughtful
[17:42]when I'm thinking about things.
[17:43]But I have to tell you, I had a gram,
[17:45]I've had a gram of the figure for you.
[17:47]It's on my upper right hand screen
[17:49]so that your mom's finding a family with me all morning.
[17:53]And I mean, this is a very loving way so pushy
[17:55]and telling me like on the one who arranged this.
[17:57]And something about trying to get it to line up
[18:00]with almost like an anniversary date,
[18:02]like a year on a anniversary date,
[18:04]but you people here like couldn't quite get it,
[18:07]but that's okay, but she needs credit for this.
[18:09]She needs to know, you know it's from her.
[18:11]and you knew this and she's a little annoyed
[18:14]you haven't talked about her yet.
[18:16]Oh, no.
[18:18]Oh my God.
[18:19]My mother ran like in a loving way.
[18:21]She's not really annoyed.
[18:22]She's teasing you.
[18:23]She's teasing you, you know.
[18:25]This is about like drinking coffee or tea
[18:28]I'm supposed to talk about.
[18:30]Hmm, drinking coffee or just sitting with you with that.
[18:33]I'll see if she like blast through a little bit more,
[18:35]but it's funny because I was like,
[18:37]oh, who's here?
[18:38]Oh my gosh.
[18:40]That's the VIP line up, you know, one that I'm talking
[18:43]about on the other side where they let them through.
[18:44]Oh, thank you.
[18:45]I am so glad she barged your way through.
[18:48]But there's one more thing I have to say
[18:50]before she lets us talk again.
[18:51]There's no such thing as goodbye.
[18:53]I'm supposed to say and there's something
[18:54]that's them bothering you about like not a proper goodbye.
[18:57]Do you understand this?
[18:58]Not a proper goodbye with her.
[19:00]Yeah.
[19:01]Okay, well, there's no goodbye.
[19:03]So stop worrying about that.
[19:04]Oh, do you think she came through in a dream to you already?
[19:08]So that's a dream of a teacher.
[19:10]My, now you're going to make me cry.
[19:12]My mom's mom passed away.
[19:14]We were super, super close.
[19:16]I call her, I call her Goggy.
[19:18]Anyway, she is the one who always wanted me to write
[19:21]and read and be in this world.
[19:23]And, you know, she was always like,
[19:26]I'm a letter to the editor type of person,
[19:28]but you're a writer anyway.
[19:30]And I didn't get to go say goodbye because of COVID.
[19:32]So I didn't go fly there to say goodbye when she was sick.
[19:35]And anyway, so maybe it was that.
[19:37]I don't know about the cause.
[19:38]She's saying she didn't die of COVID.
[19:40]No, she didn't.
[19:41]Okay, because she's just saying other people there did,
[19:44]but she didn't like other people on who are connected
[19:47]to you did what she did.
[19:48]Oh, thank you.
[19:49]Yes, no, she did not.
[19:51]It was just during the time when I wasn't flying.
[19:54]So I didn't get a chance to say goodbye in person.
[19:57]I say goodbye on FaceTime, which is not the same.
[20:00]Yeah, well thanks for her after that because she's talking about a dream visitation like coming through in someone's dream. I do. I mean, I dream about her often.
[20:08]Okay.
[20:09]That's not easy for them to do by that. It takes a lot of finesse. It's kind of like you ever see somebody playing double like Dutch like jump rope.
[20:16]The way they explain it to me is like you have to jump in a certain way into people's dreams really hard.
[20:20]So that's kind of impressive that you had more than one visitation dream from her. That's me.
[20:25]I mean, I don't know. Yeah.
[20:27]She's a force.
[20:29]She is a force. She is great. She's amazing. I hope it's not my, I hope I'm not mistaking it in my other grandmother is coming in. But you know, you said it was my mom's side. So I feel.
[20:39]No, it's on my upper right. This would be on mom's side of the family. Yeah. I want to say yeah. Yeah. Oh.
[20:45]Is there a Florida connection with her too? Yes. Okay. Like most Jewish grandmothers. She's in Florida.
[20:53]She was. Yeah. She is very happy because I feel like it was a husband for her who greeted her and also a sister figure for her. Yeah.
[21:01]So she's validating. I feel like no, it's me. You don't give this to the other grandmother.
[21:06]Yeah. No, she was what a crazy podcast this is. But yeah, she was.
[21:11]No, I know.
[21:14]She was super close and madly in love with her husband, her second husband. So my step grandfather and she has missed him for years. You know, they were so close and she's, you know, anyway, he was super special as well and she was like, you know, I actually saw a medium.
[21:32]This is becoming the podcast about me, but I saw a medium a couple years ago when she was alive. And that medium said that he would come and visit her, but she just wasn't quite ready yet.
[21:43]Oh, well, yeah. That's true. That's, that's, that's real. That's a thing.
[21:47]Nobody ever crosses alone either. We're always greeted by loved ones on the other side. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[21:54]And that was a nurse. She's retired now, but she would tell us how she'd always know when a patient was going to cross because they'd start talking about their loved ones who had already crossed being in the room with them.
[22:04]That would happen all the time. That's how all the nurses would know. Okay. We got to prepare and be ready.
[22:09]Wow. Yeah. This is wild. So wild. Well, thank you for that. Oh my gosh.
[22:15]So back to writing.
[22:18]So, thank you for having all these experiences. You've also chosen to write and become, you know, like best selling author on top of everything else.
[22:27]Why, why write as well. Why, when did you decide to start doing this?
[22:31]You know, my, that's so interesting. So I kind of talk about my journey in my first book. It's called the light between us. And it was really, I was at high school in this teacher.
[22:39]I was 20 years and I've always had this ability and I didn't know what to do with it or how to use it. And in 2005, my husband saw this little, like this little ad in a diner that was talking about an organization called the Forever Family Foundation.
[22:55]And they were giving like a, like a discussion night.
[22:58]It was all about how consciousness continues after bodily death. I thought, oh, this would be really interesting to go listen to. And it was going to be some scientist talking and.
[23:07]And we went that night, you know, a couple of weeks later, and they were talking about how they were starting a testing program for people who had medium
[23:14]capabilities to volunteer for their organization to help people in grief. And I thought, this is perfect. I can do this in secret. I can use my ability is because I have to read like every single week or my energy gets spinning.
[23:26]I can help people in grief and know that he's going to know I can still be a high school in his teacher. And that was great for a number of years.
[23:32]I did like an event and people at the school were like, well, is this you were going to go to this and I thought, and I had to tell my principal.
[23:40]And the day that that happened, I went my start on my whole duty. Right. And I got this sudden download it was as if I'd had a seven hour conversation with the other side in a millisecond.
[23:52]And what they told me is you're going to be writing books, you are going and then you're going to be a speaker, you're going to talk about this to others.
[24:01]And then there's going to be like a TV and movie component and I'm like, what, but I came home from work and I said to my husband, we need to talk.
[24:10]Got a download today. I'm going to be writing a book and I'm going to be just be going to be doing these things and, you know, he has been married to me long enough at that point where he knew all this is real.
[24:22]I mean, they give me guidance about my whole life path and things that were going to happen to us and so he's like, okay.
[24:27]All right. And by within 24 hours, everything started to come in together, like I had somebody to work on my writing with I had an agent who reached out to me, like it was very, it was very divinely guided.
[24:41]And so I always trusted in that.
[24:43]So I wrote my first book and the minute I hit send my editor like the final thing I was like, and you know what that's like, it's like the greatest feeling I got this entire download for science, the entire book boom light.
[24:55]And I thought, oh my god, you can't do this.
[24:58]You know, and so I said, you have to give me a year to like just accomade and then I'll start working on the second book, which is, you know what happened.
[25:09]You know, eventually, you know, I had taken a leave of absence from teaching and they said to me, you know, you need to come back it's been two years, you need to leave or come back.
[25:16]And I had this moment of what do I do and I didn't have my knowing for like another month I woke up one morning and I was like, oh no, I meant to leave teaching and the world is really a much greater classroom and I meant to honor this.
[25:28]And how that happened and I already, you know, I turned in science and I was silent and I'm like, oh, is that it? Is it just two and then, you know, a couple months later I got the download for the next book so I'm working on that now.
[25:41]Oh my god.
[25:42]Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty clear for me. It's an it's just this absolute knowing and when I get these downloads and it's knowing there's no emotion attached.
[25:51]Like we were sad and it's anything like, you know, I could get a download saying, you know, you're going to win $26 million and be able to help all these, you know, people in poverty and I wouldn't feel anything for the download.
[26:03]It would just be neutral.
[26:04]That's how I know how to trust when I'm getting and for those people listening to when you get into the downloads, they're usually very neutral emotionally.
[26:12]It'll just be this knowing and that's how you can trust it.
[26:14]That's how that's what led me on my journey.
[26:17]Now I have to go back and read your first book now that I read this on. It was so good.
[26:21]So what is the, what's like the clip now it's a weird of your next book.
[26:25]You know, it's so interesting because I can see what the other side is doing, right.
[26:28]So the books really they're through my voice, but it's really the other side's message.
[26:32]So the first one was really establishing like here's what's real.
[26:35]This is real and here's the, you know, the testing I've done to go through this and, you know, bring legitimacy to it because this field honestly has been so
[26:43]nice with like fraud and just ridiculousness and like, you know, just not honoring this truth.
[26:49]So I work a lot with scientists to figure this out. I have my mind mapped, you know, to see what my brainwaves are doing when I'm a normal talking mode when I go into reading mode and it shows significance difference.
[27:01]And to show that this is, you know, a very real thing just because it sounds like a happy fairy tale ending doesn't mean it's not true.
[27:08]It does continue the survival of consciousness continues.
[27:11]So, you know, the second book science is really like nobody ever needs me.
[27:15]Here's how you can access it.
[27:17]Here's examples of that.
[27:18]Go do this for yourself and past it.
[27:20]And the third book what they showed me about that and it's very interesting that they kind of waited for the download until like right before COVID started because what they showed me was it was going to be about how to find our highest path and our, you know, find the light and the dark.
[27:37]Like, how the other side can love and support us and guide us.
[27:41]But that does not exempt us from sadness or difficulty because part of that is our soul journey and we're all in this together and we're meant to come together and collaborate and that it's really a collective lesson and love.
[27:53]So it's really a guide of, you know, how to live what I call like an illuminated life.
[27:58]This life of connection where you honor your spirituality and you honor your physical body and you honor like the choices you make related to those you're free will.
[28:07]It's had a fine balance with all that and how to trust in and be guided by your team at light on the other side in order to find your highest and access that.
[28:18]So that's the next.
[28:20]Wow, very exciting, awesome.
[28:23]So if you had to give advice to aspiring authors, what would you say?
[28:27]I would say trust your inner voice trust that, that quiet voice and make space to allow it to get louder.
[28:34]It's also about I think harnessing your energy kind of like.
[28:40]For me, the hardest part is settling my energy into a chair and at a computer and then it pours out.
[28:46]You know, so many people, athletes, writers, artists, musicians for so many of us ever work alone.
[28:51]There's always a team of light working through up and with us and a lot of times you hear the term being in the zone, right.
[28:57]So this kind of flow of energy, this flow of ideas.
[29:00]So my advice is really to trust that there is so much that you need to share and say, but only you can harness yourself into a chair to allow yourself to get into that zone and let it come out.
[29:14]So it's creating space for that.
[29:16]For me, it's always been like 11 p.m. to 2 a.m. and I have no idea why, but that's when that's when everything, you know, comes through me.
[29:25]And I think it's really important to know yourself too.
[29:27]Some people are mourning people, some people find when that creative space is best for you to allow that to come for you.
[29:35]But trust in your knowing trust in your voice trust in that sense that you are part of this world and you have something really important to share that will help others in some way that will inform them or help them question something or guide them.
[29:52]I think writing holds a magic too.
[29:55]When I taught high school English, we would always talk about books in the present tense because it's almost like.
[30:00]is living, breathing, thing.
[30:01]And you really could feel writer's energy, you know?
[30:04]I love teaching Shakespeare.
[30:05]And I just felt like, well, I know Shakespeare.
[30:08]I know this guy, like, here's his energy.
[30:10]I can access it through his writing.
[30:12]And I think that's a real thing.
[30:13]So I think that when we create and we write,
[30:17]a part of us, our energy is attached to that.
[30:20]And it's almost accessible by others, you know?
[30:22]I think all works of art are.
[30:24]And writing is a work of literary art.
[30:26]So trust in it, and trust in the value of it.
[30:29]I love that.
[30:30]My grandmother, who you were talking about,
[30:32]and her husband, who I mentioned,
[30:34]Gaggy and Papa Cal, they made me these miniature books
[30:37]of stories I wrote when I was eight years old.
[30:39]And they published 20 copies for me,
[30:41]with my name on the spine and everything.
[30:42]I have one over there somewhere.
[30:44]And this is to your point about the magic of books,
[30:47]where you are literally able to read someone's mind
[30:51]and get to know somebody in a whole new way.
[30:53]So I hadn't read it in a while.
[30:55]And this is after our little beach trip,
[30:56]just to close off my whole weekend drama.
[30:59]So I read the book for the first time to my daughter
[31:03]and also her brother.
[31:05]But she's eight now.
[31:06]And I was like, actually, I was eight when I wrote that.
[31:09]And I had this moment where I was like,
[31:12]I'm literally like introducing myself
[31:14]and I was eight to my daughter and she's eight.
[31:16]And this is like the craziest thing.
[31:20]That's amazing.
[31:21]That is amazing.
[31:22]So now I have to start writing.
[31:23]And I was like, yes, now you have to start writing.
[31:25]And what a beautiful thing for her to take away.
[31:27]Right?
[31:28]So if you think about eight year old view
[31:29]and your grandmother and your grandfather
[31:31]and what they did and how they honored that
[31:34]and the trickle down into affecting your daughter now
[31:37]where she says, I want my voice to be showcased into like,
[31:41]it's an ongoing energy connection.
[31:43]Like the actions we do,
[31:45]the way that we value our voice or somebody else's voice
[31:48]or somebody else's journey,
[31:50]it extends so much beyond what we're able to see
[31:53]in that moment.
[31:54]And so any parent who's listening to,
[31:56]you should write, but you should also encourage your children
[31:59]to write and you can even publish it yourself.
[32:01]Like just, you know, hold points and put some wire in there
[32:05]and have them make a cover.
[32:06]It really is transformational.
[32:09]No, I started a whole medium account for my daughter.
[32:11]It's not her real name or anything,
[32:14]but she's like, no, no, she printed it out.
[32:16]Take it to school.
[32:17]She's like, you know, anyway, I am so sorry.
[32:20]I do not usually talk about myself this much.
[32:22]during a podcast.
[32:23]I can't believe this is what the other side has planned.
[32:26]So, all right, good, then it's okay.
[32:29]That's then, you know, can't argue with that.
[32:31]Anyway, obviously, I don't need to recap
[32:34]how much this affected me.
[32:35]And I'm just so glad to be in touch.
[32:38]And thank you for putting me in touch with my grandmother.
[32:41]And well, you never need me for that.
[32:43]She was just hanging around me,
[32:45]but she's been with you nonstop.
[32:47]Oh, no.
[32:47]And what I'd say to you is ask her for a signed
[32:49]to validate that, you know?
[32:51]She's saying something about wanting to send you a song.
[32:53]Like, so maybe ask for a song,
[32:54]or maybe you'll hear a song that reminds you of her, but.
[32:57]Okay. All right, we'll do.
[32:59]Okay, thank you so much.
[33:01]It was great talking to you.
[33:02]I hope to meet you in person.
[33:04]Yeah, I feel like you will.
[33:06]Okay, well, you'll know.
[33:07]I guess so.
[33:10]All right, take care.
[33:11]Bye.
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