Arden Myrin, LITTLE MISS LITTLE COMPTON
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[2:15]Hardin Marine is the author of the memoir Little Miss, Little Compton. She's an actress and comedian
[2:21]and became a new cast member on Showtime's shameless season 7. She recently appeared in the world
[2:26]premiere as Steve Martin's new play Meteor Shower. As a comedian, ardent tours across the country
[2:31]and co-hosts a comedy show in Los Angeles called The Tinkle Twins at Meltdown Comics with Dana
[2:36]Gould. She appeared on Chelsea lately over 100 times and is a regular panelist on At Midnight.
[2:42]She was a cast member of Mad TV for the final four seasons and is the host of the Nerdist podcast.
[2:47]Will you accept this rose about the bachelor and bachelorette franchise? She's been in orange
[2:52]the new black, key and peel, inside Amy Schumer, Reno 911, two broke girls, the Gilmore girls,
[2:59]and many others, including films like bachelorette, wrong cops, and wrong. She can next be seen in
[3:05]the future film Extra Curricular Activities on season two of the CMT show Still The King.
[3:11]And she recently filmed a pilot for the CW called Insatiable. And a pilot for a talk show with
[3:16]Kate Walsh called Get In My Van for the Pop Network. I hope you enjoy our podcast. I sure did.
[3:21]Welcome to Moms on a Time Tree. Great thanks, Arden. Thank you so much for coming on. I really
[3:26]hate it. I was so excited to be asked. So thank you. I'm a fan. Oh my gosh. First of all,
[3:32]the care package you sent with us a while. It was like months ago now and I was like,
[3:36]this is going to be so fun. Anybody who's like cool enough to put their worst middle school or
[3:42]lower school picture on a puzzle is my kind of bed. It's really awesome. That was what I actually
[3:48]wanted for the cover. Like I tried to recreate. I mean, I did recreate my sixth grade photo and I
[3:54]begged for them to put that on the cover. I say wouldn't. And you know, I actually love the cover.
[3:59]Like I think I got the right cover and they think they were right. But I was excited. I was like,
[4:04]well, I can't have recreated that and just have it go nowhere. So I was like, I'm going to do
[4:09]a meet the authors with me and my cat mittens. It's perfect. I love how you got it in there. It
[4:15]was perfect. And also, when I watched you jumping up and down on Instagram and you were like,
[4:21]I wrote a book. I wrote a book. I wrote a book. I was literally like, I wanted to apply.
[4:26]That was so cute. And you can just tell how proud you are. And it's so you should be that proud.
[4:30]It's an amazing accomplishment. I mean, I truly for anybody out there who is an author or like
[4:37]a first time. So there was somebody who's never written a book or was writing, I have to tell you
[4:42]I am so short attention span theater. That's your fact that I've always been sort of in life.
[4:48]I could make magic in short periods of time, but I've never been like the long distance race.
[4:52]If I can't finish it in one sitting, I generally would have to do it. But I will say for anybody
[4:57]out there, that's an author who I have this fantasy that if you sold a book and you wrote a book
[5:02]that it had to get people, you know, that an author gets up and they have their breakfast and then
[5:07]they log in at 10 and they're done it for and then they go on a walk and then, you know,
[5:12]have a brandy and watch, you know, some classy thing on television. I really, particularly in
[5:19]the beginning, it was almost like, okay, you stay in your corner. I'll stay in mine page. Like,
[5:24]the blank page was like, I was sort of cautiously approaching it like a caged animal. And I would,
[5:30]in the beginning, just do 25 minutes a day at first, but I would do it. I would time it and I wouldn't
[5:37]go online and I wouldn't, you know, check my text. I wouldn't be calling anybody and it was just
[5:44]facing myself 25. And then eventually I could do a little bit longer, but it is a, anybody who knows
[5:49]me, it is a huge accomplishment to actually just allow the process. Like, so I started with
[5:54]the word count. Man, I had a pretty aggressively structured proposal, which gave me the format,
[6:01]but, you know, I was so overwhelmed. I started with the word count and I printed it all out and then
[6:06]I sort of organized everything. And then I just allowed for it to be a terrible first draft,
[6:11]like I was going to Michael's craft. So I was just getting glue and felt in yarn and sparkles and
[6:16]just to trust that I had to just get the material. And then when I had all the words out,
[6:21]then I went through chapter by chapter and really made sure to tighten and shine each one up
[6:27]and then made sure the flow of the arc of the narrative made sense.
[6:32]Wow. Well, I came off as like one really cohesive story. And the part that I found really
[6:38]interesting, I mean, it was all awesome and your description of where you grew up and your
[6:43]dad Willie. And, you know, he was like right off the page. I feel like I got to know him so well.
[6:48]It's foibles and strengths and weaknesses and all the rest. But it's almost like how the book kind
[6:53]of developed unintentionally because you were talking about your life and then things like happened
[6:58]through the writing so that you could even say, and while I wanted to make this like a beat
[7:03]tree, now it's serious. But so poignant and moving and I don't want to like give anything away
[7:09]that happens later, I guess. But I mean, yeah, so it does start out. It's an interesting thing.
[7:16]You know, this was a book that I've been trying to solve for a while. And I had this unusual
[7:20]upbringing and I had, you know, and I think it's sort of like a small town life. My parents
[7:26]married on a dare. I had this sort of very salty dad who's almost like, you know, he's a great
[7:33]literary character. Maybe not so great in person as a dad, but like a great literary character.
[7:38]But I thought I could sort of tell this funny story. Yeah. And if you read it, there's a twist
[7:43]at the end that was not part of the original plan that I thought it would just be sort of like a fun,
[7:50]you know, female comedian funny. Here's all my most embarrassing stories. Here's my quirky
[7:54]upbringing. Here's my Dorothy going to Oz like how I go from a town with a general store and
[7:59]make it onto a sitcom like, here's all that fun. And then an event happens on the day that I
[8:05]find out that I've sold the book that alters the entire DNA of it. And I actually think made it
[8:11]a better book. I mean, midlife. And I know that you know, I mean, I know what's going on with you.
[8:19]I know you know what that's like, you know, and, you know, it's an interesting thing. You know,
[8:25]I mean, we can talk. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think is a giving stuff away?
[8:29]I don't know. It's hard to say because it's your life. So I guess anybody knows you would know what
[8:32]happened. But I mean, so basically, so here it's sort of this fun beat read for while. It's this
[8:38]funny story. It's very fun. You know, and I was talking about, you know, and in it, my dad had passed
[8:43]away and I was sort of writing about that and it sort of got, you know, it took me about a year,
[8:48]but I was feeling better. And then the proposal had been, you know, getting shopped around. And
[8:54]I was, I'm on the show and satiable on Netflix. And we were back filming in Atlanta. And like,
[9:00]you know, this is like 18 months after my dad and died, nobody could get in touch with my mom.
[9:04]And like, she had just died making breakfast. She just died. And then I remember it. So I had to go
[9:10]home and on the way to the funeral in this tiny town, I got this email from a publisher that was
[9:16]like, hope you're having a great week. We're so excited to do this book with you. And, you know,
[9:22]this has been something I've been trying to sell for a few years. And then, you know, it was so
[9:26]strange that of all the versions of what the book could be. She was barely in the proposal because
[9:32]she wasn't quite as noisy of a figure. But what I really think, I think it became her book. And then
[9:39]my friend who read it, she's like, Artin, it's not your memoir. It's your mom war. And I think, I mean,
[9:47]I'm sure you're going through something similar, but like the experience of, you know, when somebody
[9:52]dies and when somebody dies is sort of fun and beloved, like people tell you stories about them. And so
[9:58]all these stories were told to me.
[10:00]that I didn't know, like I didn't know that she was the dead mother of my brother's cubs
[10:04]scout troop. I didn't know that she'd made a flip book. Like, you know, I grew up in this town
[10:09]with like fishermen and lobstermen. It's as small as you could possibly imagine. And she was like,
[10:16]okay, boys, like today I'm going to teach you how to put on a Broadway musical. You made a flip
[10:21]book and like just things like that that I would never have known. And so I think it really
[10:27]became sort of a fun tribute to all it takes is one person rooting for you. And that like,
[10:34]I had this, you know, my parents married on a dare and Manhattan. And they never went on one day,
[10:41]they married on a dare for vacation time. And, you know, so it was it was just this
[10:46]odd upbringing. But if you just have a sort of just takes one person who's like, protect your light,
[10:51]go for it, encouraging you. Your mom was like such, I want to say like such a hoot. Do you know
[10:58]I mean like she was so funny, even like the clips that you put on from when she would call in
[11:04]and you would talk about her as a real estate agent. And I don't know, she just seemed like so funny
[11:09]and you clearly had such affection, not just affection like mother daughter. I feel like it's such a
[11:13]general term like, oh, my mother this. But yeah, it like doesn't do justice to like the crazy people,
[11:19]people are in the world. You know what I mean? Like, she was like, you know, quirky and funny. And then
[11:26]you build her up so much in the writing that when you get to the part with like the teacup on the counter,
[11:31]it's just you want to just cry with you. You know, that I mean, it's an interesting thing again,
[11:37]like you're one of the first people who've read it. And like, it's an, like I've had a few friends
[11:42]who, you know, are like comedy friends. And I'll get this, you know, they'll tell like,
[11:47]oh, I'm reading down and all your dad is eating his cheek, cake, diet, blah, blah, blah,
[11:51]you know, like, and then I'll get a text. It's like, oh, my God, I'm tears. Like, you know, and I
[11:56]thought, okay, you know what? For me personally, I actually, I feel like, okay, that means like,
[12:01]I'm proud of that. Like, I'm not trying to make my friends cry, but that it could be, you know,
[12:07]it's an interesting thing growing up in New England. You're sort of taught to not keep secrets,
[12:14]but for me, I grew up kind of keeping things funny. And then I actually will say it was my
[12:19]podcast. Even my comedy, I was never super personal in my stand-up. And doing the podcast, I
[12:24]host this very silly bachelor podcast. And, and I don't know if you're, I mean, I don't know if
[12:29]you're having this experience now, but like, both of my parents died in season. So it was like,
[12:34]both of them died in Saturdays. The bachelor airs on Mondays and then I record on Tuesday. And
[12:40]I've always been fairly private about my personal life, but there was no way to hide that I
[12:45]wasn't in the studio and that I was like in my family den and I'm with my brother. And so I just
[12:50]made up my, I allowed myself to cancel anything I wanted to cancel. And I wanted to do that.
[12:56]And I felt, I felt a real kinship with my listeners. And we chose to do the podcasts. And it
[13:02]was interesting. It actually became, I was worried I was going to freak people out that it was
[13:08]going to be too much, that it people are going to be frightened by that information that they're
[13:12]like, lady, we just want our bachelor news. We don't want to send your dad back if you're like,
[13:16]you're feeling like, what do you do you psychopath? And it actually, I felt people were like,
[13:22]thank you so much for talking about, you know, what's going on. It helps me, you know, I have
[13:27]stuff going on or it helps me to see that you're still, you know, moving forward. So I was pretty
[13:31]honest about my path there. And I think it allowed me on the page. I feel like each time, whatever
[13:37]like the universe or the creative spirits or whatever, I think are encouraging me to feel safe
[13:43]for and safe for exposing more just of my heart or the truth. And it doesn't have to be malicious,
[13:49]but that by telling your story, like, it doesn't have to just be the funny parts. And that
[13:57]is makes it a better story. Yeah, you can still appreciate the funny parts. But it's almost like,
[14:04]I don't know, it's like looking at a very pretty tree, but you don't see the roots or something.
[14:08]Like once you can see the whole thing, then it's even more like majestic that it can rise.
[14:12]Yeah, I don't know. It's ridiculous, but I don't know. There's something about seeing the whole thing.
[14:18]What maybe other people can't really see all the time. And then it makes it deeper. And then you
[14:25]enjoy the comedy more or something. Yeah, I mean, the people that I appreciate are
[14:33]like sort of lay themselves out. And I don't know. It was, it was an interesting thing even just
[14:39]to again, I think, you know, I feel like the world is, the world is so bonkers. And even before 2020,
[14:46]I mean, like life is a journey, you know, and I think just to know that everybody grew up with
[14:54]some stuff, everybody has stuff. Even if it's the most, it looks the best or like everybody has
[15:02]a few cards in their hand that are complicated that was dealt to them. And I feel like just the
[15:08]the humanity and the connection. And again, and I kept trying to, I have a very close friend who's
[15:14]this wonderful playwright Tom Diggs. He's like my classy friend. He was nominated for a Pulitzer.
[15:19]And I kept calling him as I was writing this. He has two things he kept saying to me because I,
[15:22]you know, written scripts and things, but he kept saying to me, art in each piece reveals to you
[15:27]how it wants to be written. And that it's not the same strategy for each piece. And then he said,
[15:32]and then when I was debating, you know, telling, you know, my dad was tough. And he was entertaining
[15:38]if he wasn't your dad. He was funny. Like he was beloved by friends and like neighbors, but he
[15:44]was a tough dad. And I was asking him. I was like, you know, I don't want to throw somebody under
[15:50]the bus. I don't want to throw somebody under the bus. That's not here. You know, like, I don't
[15:54]want to tell somebody's, he's like, so he just kept encouraging me to be like, is it necessary
[16:00]check your motives? Why are you telling it? Is it your story? Like, like how much of the, can you
[16:06]reveal it sort of not not to be polyanna, but like a lady. So you're sort of letting people know
[16:12]sort of what's going on without having to like throw somebody under the bus. And I felt like that
[16:18]was like, that was one of the things I'm proud of. I know my brother wasn't ready. I
[16:25]kept asking if he wanted to read it. And he was like, and I said, this is the part that might be
[16:29]hard. I mean, I was, you know, he was tricky. And all right, my brother, he's so sweet. And he was
[16:34]like, he's like, look, I know he was a tough dad. Like, so I just, you know, you, I don't know. It's
[16:40]that balancing act of like, what's like, here's the real story. Here's the story.
[16:46]You did include a nice, like, my brother's a great guy. And he turned out great.
[16:50]You said something like that.
[16:53]It's funny about my brother too, because like, I just love my brother and I so like,
[16:58]did you grow up with boys? Did you have a brother again?
[17:01]So like, to me, if you grow up with boys and, you know, like, we wrestled, we were both equally
[17:08]horrible to one another. Like, he was like, we were both tiny, no one was in danger. Like, we were
[17:13]both the runs of the litter. So like, but that's sort of the fun of having a brother. But I,
[17:19]I remember the published, like, some of the people I think did not grow up with boys. And they were
[17:24]like, I think they thought that I had like this tough brother. And I'm thinking, no, that's just
[17:28]a brother, you know, so I think I had to say for any, any woman out there who didn't grow up with
[17:34]a brother. This is a very nice person who, you know, this is the 80s and the 80s, like, you know,
[17:42]peanuts characters, like, pick just rolling around. That's the deal. Totally. I feel that my
[17:47]brother used to like hit me all the time. And I remember telling this to my husband and my
[17:51]husband's like, he was three years younger than you. What are you talking about? Like, I don't know.
[17:55]That just would happen all the time. I don't know. We just like fought. And it's kind of fun. Like,
[17:59]there was something like, who else on earth can you fight with? Yeah. Well, of course, now when my kids
[18:04]fight. I'm like, but anyway, when you talked about how your mom wanted four kids and he didn't
[18:10]wanted any kids and they compromised it too. But your dad was like, okay, well, if you want to have
[18:14]kids, you like, that's your thing. Yeah. And then you said so like, my mom, my brother and I were like,
[18:20]three sem and my dad was just like there, which paints the whole picture. It's like, okay, like,
[18:25]that's he just didn't deal. It wasn't even personal. And no, you know, he was aware and this is
[18:32]like what happened almost. He would just say like, from the time, he would just be like,
[18:37]I told your mother, she wanted to have kids. She had to deal with you. And you're like,
[18:40]oh, okay. Like, you know, it wasn't interesting. And I don't know if it's also like dads of that
[18:45]era. Like, I didn't really know a lot of my friends dads, but I will say mine. I think mine was
[18:51]harsher about it. You know, but it was just if you don't grow up in a different house, you're like,
[18:56]okay, like that's a dad. Like that's, you know, and thankfully my mom, my brother and I
[19:01]were such a team that we had so much fun. And it literally felt like the three musketeers and then
[19:07]there was like a dude that lived in the den, you know, like that. And like, which was fun. You just
[19:12]sort of like, didn't go into the den. And I was just hanging out with my buddies and that that was
[19:17]sort of, and that was a very openly the deal. Yeah. And then he even say like, everybody gets
[19:22]dealt a different hand in life. And some people just aren't meant to love or they just don't know
[19:27]how to love that well. And that part like made me so sad because yeah, that's, I mean, that just made
[19:33]me sad that hurt. I know, I mean, that was what was interesting when my dad died. I remember feeling
[19:38]it's an interesting thing. And I actually feel like that's, you know, look, I certainly didn't think
[19:44]my book would be coming out in a global pandemic. But I actually feel like it is a good book for
[19:49]this time in that I do think it's a fun, funny, lighthearted read. But I do think there's an
[19:54]I feel like the world is kind of collectively grieving. And there's some, and it's different. Like
[19:58]everybody has different.
[20:00]experiences. But with him, it was sort of, I thought it would just be a relief because he'd been sick for so long.
[20:06]And it was the grief of failure to launch of like, why did this never happen?
[20:13]And I, you know, there was never that come to Jesus at the end. We're like, I'm so sorry. You know,
[20:18]it just didn't happen. And, you know, I guess just wanting to tell anybody out there, you know,
[20:25]look, I just speak for myself. Like, I am okay. I am okay with, you know, it doesn't mean that
[20:34]there's not hurt in the heart for that, but that it's okay. Like there's other people in my life
[20:41]that love me and like, he just couldn't do it. And then even with, you know, with what happened with
[20:46]my mom this year, you know, I know a lot of people are walking through all sorts of things
[20:51]right now that no one could have imagined. I mean, in the way it went with my mom, it was literally
[20:57]my worst nightmare. And what I'd pictured and I got to tell you there was a weird grace
[21:03]to last year, even though my world was on fire, I would say there was a certain,
[21:10]there was certain gifts to it, which I write about in the book too of like, when I'm such a
[21:15]a people pleaser. And like, I found that with both parents, one of the gifts of grief was I
[21:20]literally feel like I had no skin. And so the upshot of that was like, it was very clear to me,
[21:27]like, who I wanted to be with, who I didn't want to be with. What activity? So like that, I still
[21:32]knew I needed to have a little fun, like what felt safe and fun and what was like no freaking way,
[21:37]you know? And I couldn't force myself to say yes when in the past as such a people pleaser,
[21:43]I would have made myself or go, oh, I should do this or I don't want to hurt their feelings.
[21:47]And it wasn't that I was rude about it, but that my, one of the gifts of it is I felt like it
[21:53]really separated like the, what is the, the shaft from, I don't know, with the wheat from the
[21:58]shaft that we, yes, like that you really, it just became clear of like, what kind of lemonade? And
[22:04]like what makes my tail wag, what is joyful, what feels good? Like there is a, I really loved the
[22:11]grace of that. And like you're very present. There's like time takes on a different quality,
[22:17]which I think is happening globally right now anyway. And that like I just had to really slow down
[22:22]and listen to like next indicated action, like what do I need? And, you know, I'm such a doer,
[22:28]I get things done. And it's like, how about half speed? How about just lowering the bar?
[22:34]How about your best is good enough? And it may not be perfect. And like, done is better than great
[22:40]and maybe you're going to be late to your little gym class and maybe you didn't send that email
[22:45]but like, okay, you're doing the best that you can. Like, and I think, I don't know like,
[22:51]there was some magic to that that I wouldn't wish on somebody, but that if God forbid you
[22:57]would world get set on fire, like, like I just said, you'll be okay one day. This two shall pass.
[23:03]It won't always feel like this. I feel like you're just, you've just been like dropped down to
[23:08]talk to me directly and then pretending like nobody else is even listening to that.
[23:12]No, I think so. Thank you. You know, your book and grief Island and like all the stuff you went
[23:18]through, it helps to hear someone else's story. And I'm sorry you had to go through it all.
[23:22]I mean, really truly 100% like from the bottom of my heart. Sorry, it's just being able to share it
[23:28]and tell it and experience your own version of of something you couldn't have imagined.
[23:32]Yeah. It just somehow helps everyone else. It really did. I mean, it's so strange,
[23:37]I really, again, this book was supposed to be a fun. I don't just say it's not funny.
[23:41]All right, it is very funny. It's super funny. You know what? How about this? Stop, stop.
[23:46]If you don't want to get to the sad part, stop after I go to England.
[23:51]Literally most of it is hilarious. Yes, it's funny. So like this is most of it is like it,
[23:57]it is the fun beach read. And it's just stop after chapter 18 and just get the last two chapters.
[24:03]But there's even hope in that. But I will say like, again, growing up in this very sort of
[24:08]Waspy New England family that doesn't talk about emotions and doesn't talk about feelings,
[24:12]I really felt for whatever reason the timing of the sale of this book like that this would
[24:18]never been my path in life, but like somehow normalizing grief of nobody talks about it and that
[24:25]it's okay to feel sad and that you don't have to feel not sad right away. When people try to,
[24:30]I can't handle this. She's in a better place. That one was the one. I was like, I can't do that.
[24:34]Like, I can't do the better place one right now. But that, you know, that there's for me,
[24:39]each one took about a year and it was and it was like, oh boy, here we go. It's almost my friend
[24:44]liking it to getting strapped. You go to like six flags and like when you go into those roller
[24:49]coasters that the things come down and lock you in, it's like, let it sign up for this ride,
[24:53]but it's taking me. So I think here I have some tips in the book of like how to kind of survive
[24:59]your own grief island and maybe even have some joy in it because there was some grace, I think,
[25:05]with Pete, for me, the key was being around people where I could be not okay. And that actually
[25:10]made me feel more okay that if I, if they were not afraid that I was like that it made me more
[25:16]a Debbie Ryan who wrote my forward the delightful star of a station with me and, you know, the star
[25:23]of Jesse and who would have ever thought that this wonderful 25 year old Disney star would be
[25:29]the person. Like you just, but she just showed up and, you know, we were in Atlanta filming and
[25:36]she wasn't afraid of it and we would go roller skating and she would take we go out for tacos and
[25:40]we go to like the roller derby and like we go to karaoke and like and it was okay if I was a
[25:47]a little bit out of it, you know, that I didn't have to be on point. And I think for so much of my
[25:54]life, I think particularly growing up in kind of a quirky household trying to look normal or trying
[25:59]to fit in like everybody else. And there's such a grace of just being with people who are like,
[26:04]come as you are girl and like put on your sweat pants, but here's some glitter roller skates.
[26:09]I'm no, you're not great, but come on, Andy, we're not scared of you. We're not scared of you as
[26:12]sweat pants. Come on, we love you anyway. It's so true. The people who end up coming through
[26:20]in times of loss, not coming through, but the people that you feel like the most connected to
[26:24]are never, I feel like you're not never, but are rarely the ones you expect and it could be total
[26:28]strangers. And sometimes it was you expect like can't handle it. Like that's, you don't know,
[26:34]but yeah, it's truly, it was honestly, it was all of the kids on insatiable. It was the entire
[26:39]like teen cast. You know, they, there's a story, there's a boy on the show that was like this
[26:46]teen heartthrob who's absolutely adorable, Michael Provost. And I remember, and again, by the
[26:51]18, 90% of this book is not this, but right out, yes, it don't be afraid, but this boy, Michael
[26:58]Provost, he one day he showed up at my Airbnb and he texted me. He was like, what are you doing today?
[27:04]And I was like, oh, I'm supposed to be writing my book. And you know, I said no to all these fun things.
[27:08]And he showed up at my doorstep and this sweet teen dream had made me a lasagna. And I was like,
[27:17]he goes, look, I didn't know what to say to you. And I thought about it. And I remember when
[27:22]somebody in my town would pass, my mom would make them a lasagna. So I went on YouTube last night
[27:27]and I learned how and I baked you a lasagna. He borrowed his mother's baking pan. And he made
[27:32]me a lasagna. And he showed up. He was 21 years old, you know, 88 million Instagram followers,
[27:39]like truly like, like he could have gone to a bar legally. He's super popular. And this young man
[27:47]went inside and baked his grieving adult lady co-star a lasagna. Just that people can be,
[27:56]there's so much goodness. There's so much goodness. And that's part of the whole thing. It's
[28:04]seeing all the good and all the connection and behind the scenes. Absolutely. And you never
[28:11]behind the music of, you know, behind the music of teen drama and Netflix. True story.
[28:21]Oh my gosh, Arden, I feel like I could talk to you all day. I feel like we're just like
[28:24]scraping the service and I had 70 quotes and all the rest from your buck. But anyway, I love
[28:28]to talking to you. I love that you gave so much advice along the way of like people what they
[28:33]should do when they're writing a book and all the rest and your journey and loss and humor and
[28:38]how it all combines. And anyways, just a true pleasure to chat with you. Oh, thank you so much. And
[28:44]can I have a, can I have a little giveaway for listeners? Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. So I've partnered
[28:50]with that. There's a premier collectibles. There's a thing with authors. So you can get a,
[28:54]for the first 250 people, you can get a signed book and a little miss little Compton tote bag
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[29:11]tote in the signed book. And then for the second 250, it's just the signed book. So get them while
[29:16]they last. Well, I'm releasing this when your book comes out. So I'm worried that maybe they'll
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[29:24]supported and dependent bookstore. Yeah, or maybe they'll still get it. We'll try. We'll try.
[29:31]All right. Thank you so much. So be worried to light in your so much service to so many authors
[29:37]and so many people. And I was so excited to come on your podcast. And I hope to meet you in
[29:42]person one day. I hope to meet you in person one day soon. Hi. All right. Hang in there. Okay. Okay.
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